Bad Blur Jobs
I just read this entry on Scott Fegette’s blog about a really nice new feature of Dreamweaver 8 called “Code Collapse”, but that’s not really what got my attention about the blog entry. Check out the blur job on the screenshot below:
You blur out two phone numbers that are already fake (415.XXX.XXXX) and then don’t even blur out your own e-mail address enough to keep people from guessing exactly what it is? I mean c’mon… it ends in macromedia.com, doesn’t it?
Anyway, sorry Scott… I’m sure someone else is the guilty blurrer here. I just felt like bringing it up. UPDATE: Guilty! :)
And hey, great job with Dreamweaver 8! I can’t wait to try it out.
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I think I can make out the name… “adobestockbroker@”
lol!
I put the blurs in as an afterthought while waiting around for the Studio 8 site to go live last night- and was wondering if anyone would notice it, even tho the phone numbers were already X’ed out (honestly, simple guesswork nets all kinds of folks my email address w/o much effort on a daily basis). No real rhyme or reason beyond that, though… ;-)
Reminds me of the default XML view in Firefox. Certainly a welcome addition.
I like how Dreamweaver shows the content of all include statements and works better with standards out of the box. I’m using it more and more these days, even for things like asp.net work.
I’d like to be able to extend the hide/show controls to do more than just tags. Often when I’m designing a site not using include statements, or building a test site without dynamic content added yet, I’d like to be able to hide specific blocks of html not specifically framed by tags. For example, if I had something like
…
Content Here
…
I’d like to be able to hide the header and footer parts of the code, only showing whats inside the content div.
Correction- I believe that functionality is part of code collapse. DW8 looks sweet.
I’m hoping ActionScript will have a similar feature. Scrolling through thousands of AS lines just isn’t fun.
Tree/section collapsing is indeed a very neat feature. It’s one of my favourite little extras about SciTE that has made me so impressed with that piece of software. It’s nice to see such a popular authoring tool picking up the feature, too; I expect a lot of people will like it. :)
I remember this being in Homesite since at least v4. Nice to see they’re not completely ignoring its existence. I’ve never figured out why TopStyle doesn’t seem to offer the same for HTML, all things considered.
I know a lot of you probably wouldn’t realize it (except for Rob), but collapsing inside the code view is something that is popular in VS.NET. It seems kind of funny to me thinking back about how Adobe and Macromedia were always borrowing ideas from each other and even getting into heated arguments of “I’ll tell me lawyers on you!”, and now that screen shot of DW’s new code view looks like they are borrowing from other sources now that they teamed up.
It is GREAT news to see Macromedia try to make improvements in the code view. I have always had a problem with DW for the lack of intuitive thought that went into such an important part of every web developers life. Sadly, I don’t know that I can go back to DW now though. What do they have to offer? I’ve already gotten away from tables which was the #1 thing I used WYSIWYG’s for in the first place.
I can’t see why I would want to load up a memory hog when a powerful text editors with macros, ftp and other goodies built in will work just as good. Maybe I am neglecting to recognize some new features that help with standards compliant web sites. built in validator or something cool like that. I suppose I will give DW another chance just in case.
Code collapse seems like a useful feature. Too bad I don’t use DW though…
Just for the record, code collapsing was available in Homesite since a very, very long time. It’s not something introduced by VS.NET.
Isn’t this just folding, which has been around in editors like vi and emacs since who knows when?
R.I.P. HomeSite?
The new features look nice, but I’d also like to see the existing package firmed up a bit. Here’s hoping it’s not such a performance hog on the mac as mx2004.
I was a bit gutted last year when I transferred my licence across from the pc only to find it ran considerably slower on a supposedly superior processor (1.6 GHz Athlon vs 1.8 GHz G5) :/
I agree that this has become an expected piece of functionality. I work insided of eclipse and know that the free plugin from Exadel studios http://www.exadel.com/ has this feature. It’s been around for a while inside of Java IDEs.
Code Folding This is also availble in CFEclipse
If DW8 supports:
line wrap
columnar select
and code folding
then I’ll be stoked. But just code folding (and probably line wrap) isn’t enough to get me to switch back to the bloated mass that is DW.
I suppose it depends on the types of sites your building. I use DW’s templating features extensively, and there’s nothing in any text editor that compares. Library items are another nice touch. Plus, let’s say I have several versions of a template for different areas of a site (likely nested templates), and I decide to move one of the site sections to a new directory…Just drag and drop the folder in the tree view, and any page/template pointing to that directory (or any files inside the directory) will be updated automatically. Nice!
I also like having an entire suite of O’Reilly reference books as built-in help files.
I always turn on the accessibility features, so I’m forced to enter ALT text for images; summaries, captions, etc. for data tables; etc. Makes it impossible to forget, or to convince yourself “I’ll come back and add that stuff later…”
Also, I love the tag completion and attribute popups (or whatever they’re called.) Start typing a tag, and all available attributes show up for easy selection. Start typing “class=” or “id=” on an element, and all available CSS definitions show up for easy selection.
As for bloat, I guess I just don’t notice it. I s’pose a dual processor G5 with a gig of RAM helps out in that regard ;-)
For the most part, I use UltraEdit (which has line wrap, columnar select and code folding) but I love Dreamweaver’s search and replace features. Plus, the templating works well when I need to build a large static site (yeah, I’ve done static sites with 1000+ pages). I’m looking forward to DW8… I hope they’ve been able to improve performance.
Hmmmm, if they just added this, the feature was another one “borrowed” from Macromedia Homesite (formerly Alaire Homesite) — great feature, surprised DreamWeaver did not think of it sooner.
I doubt Homesite was the first to think of collapsing code. Even if they were, I never said VS.Net “invented” code collapse. But the similarities are obvious. Did Homesite have a square placed around a piece of the code followed by “…” ? I don’t remember that from HS.
I’ve seen code collapse in many apps.. My favorite editor, UltraEdit, has that feature. But unlike VS, and now DW, UltraEdit doesn’t collapse quite as nice.
Jonathan, I really didn’t think many people used UltraEdit. For those who don’t know about it. It’s like Notepad on steroids. Has nice tabbed files, code color formatting and a load of features that you don’t see anywhere. The best or worst part is that the layout isn’t the most intuitive so it can be hard to find what menu holds what feature sometimes. The flip side of the coin is that there is no bulky UI to get in the way.. load up 10, 20, 30.. files and run macros, global search and replace with some nice S&R options. It’s a no-bs tool.
Heh. No long comment. That’s just funny.
Now my only question is if they were able to add functionality such that Dreamweaver can open up Sharepoint Portal Server team sites for editting them natively like Frontpage 03 offers…
Here’s hoping they include a drag ‘n drop ~blink~ tool.
Code collapse just finally made my brain realize that I need to get Studio 8.
That’s a real nice thing, hehe. Well, maybe one should stop programming after some hours sitting in front of the monitor. So I should probably stop now… Yeah, I should.
Correction- I believe that functionality is part of code collapse. DW8 looks sweet.