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		By: Andy Borgmann		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2016/05/three-years-in-san-francisco#comment-473964</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andy Borgmann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 02:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is going to seem like a shot from the past, but I read the following paragraph back in 2016 and it really stuck with me.
&lt;blockquote&gt;In other words, when you’re the person in the room silently thinking “I know how this ends”... it’s probably time to move on.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It&#039;s now almost 2 years later, I came back to re-read it, but there has probably not been a month that has gone by where I haven&#039;t thought about this quote.

Mike, you had a big impact on my design skills dating back from a post on how to customize MySpace (ha!) to the Newsvine years to your posts here.  I am by no means a &quot;great designer&quot;, but for a single-op programmer/database/designer you really made a difference.

Your words here have also helped again in another area I was needing guidance on.  Thank you for everything all these years and I hope you are doing well with whatever you are doing now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is going to seem like a shot from the past, but I read the following paragraph back in 2016 and it really stuck with me.</p>
<blockquote><p>In other words, when you’re the person in the room silently thinking “I know how this ends”&#8230; it’s probably time to move on.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s now almost 2 years later, I came back to re-read it, but there has probably not been a month that has gone by where I haven&#8217;t thought about this quote.</p>
<p>Mike, you had a big impact on my design skills dating back from a post on how to customize MySpace (ha!) to the Newsvine years to your posts here.  I am by no means a &#8220;great designer&#8221;, but for a single-op programmer/database/designer you really made a difference.</p>
<p>Your words here have also helped again in another area I was needing guidance on.  Thank you for everything all these years and I hope you are doing well with whatever you are doing now.</p>
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		By: Brady		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2016/05/three-years-in-san-francisco#comment-398863</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2016 19:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I really agree with your part on how managers are decided without regard to their emotional intelligence. When I worked at Google for a few years, this was by far the biggest problem I saw, and was in fact the reason I left the company. You can see the lack of empathy in SV from a bird&#039;s eye view just by looking at what most companies are working on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really agree with your part on how managers are decided without regard to their emotional intelligence. When I worked at Google for a few years, this was by far the biggest problem I saw, and was in fact the reason I left the company. You can see the lack of empathy in SV from a bird&#8217;s eye view just by looking at what most companies are working on.</p>
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		By: Amy		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2016/05/three-years-in-san-francisco#comment-383965</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2016 04:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was thrilled to read your post....perfect examples of our absence of the humanistic charateristics we so badly need in our work places...we can focus on the technology, task, and data, but comprehensively miss the target of what is needed for our greatest assets, the people. No better example exists then The Silicon Valley ( I am a native Nth Californian, and now a long time Seattle resident) its absence of emotional intelligence and the immaturity in communication skills are blatantly obvious...thanks for the transparency]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thrilled to read your post&#8230;.perfect examples of our absence of the humanistic charateristics we so badly need in our work places&#8230;we can focus on the technology, task, and data, but comprehensively miss the target of what is needed for our greatest assets, the people. No better example exists then The Silicon Valley ( I am a native Nth Californian, and now a long time Seattle resident) its absence of emotional intelligence and the immaturity in communication skills are blatantly obvious&#8230;thanks for the transparency</p>
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		By: Mathieu Augé		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2016/05/three-years-in-san-francisco#comment-383902</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mathieu Augé]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2016 14:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Awesome post !
Being a young PM at the beginning of my career, I can&#039;t thank you enough for this. 

May I add that what you believe to be &quot;guilty of&quot; is has actually been described by Pr. Robert Sutton as &quot;The No Asshole Rule&quot; (book) ?

TL;DR : He makes the case for kicking assholes out of the workplace, even said &quot;top-performers&quot;. 

Cheers from Paris, where summer will be great too (fingers crossed :) )]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome post !<br />
Being a young PM at the beginning of my career, I can&#8217;t thank you enough for this. </p>
<p>May I add that what you believe to be &#8220;guilty of&#8221; is has actually been described by Pr. Robert Sutton as &#8220;The No Asshole Rule&#8221; (book) ?</p>
<p>TL;DR : He makes the case for kicking assholes out of the workplace, even said &#8220;top-performers&#8221;. </p>
<p>Cheers from Paris, where summer will be great too (fingers crossed :) )</p>
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		By: Robin Dautricourt		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2016/05/three-years-in-san-francisco#comment-383325</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robin Dautricourt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2016 09:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great post. As someone who grew up in the Bay Area, then returned after grad school to work in tech start ups, and has now moved up to the Seattle area, so much of what you shared rings true in my experience as well.

I started my career as a designer, and have transitioned into product management. Indeed, the industry is very conflicted over how technical a PM should be, and in my view there&#039;s generally too much emphasis on this part of the role. I agree that the importance of empathy in the PM discipline is not acknowledged enough, as it is such a key ingredient that adds tremendous value to any team, for the business, and for its customers.

As for the Bay Area and Seattle... The former is such an amazing place, filled with talent, intensity, and opportunity. But the pace of life, the financial pressure, and the general insanity that comes with living there, especially working in the tech start-up environment, is amazing and yet so ridiculous. Looking back on three years into the Seattle experience, it&#039;s been a great move to the PNW, and I look forward to another glorious summer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. As someone who grew up in the Bay Area, then returned after grad school to work in tech start ups, and has now moved up to the Seattle area, so much of what you shared rings true in my experience as well.</p>
<p>I started my career as a designer, and have transitioned into product management. Indeed, the industry is very conflicted over how technical a PM should be, and in my view there&#8217;s generally too much emphasis on this part of the role. I agree that the importance of empathy in the PM discipline is not acknowledged enough, as it is such a key ingredient that adds tremendous value to any team, for the business, and for its customers.</p>
<p>As for the Bay Area and Seattle&#8230; The former is such an amazing place, filled with talent, intensity, and opportunity. But the pace of life, the financial pressure, and the general insanity that comes with living there, especially working in the tech start-up environment, is amazing and yet so ridiculous. Looking back on three years into the Seattle experience, it&#8217;s been a great move to the PNW, and I look forward to another glorious summer.</p>
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		By: ankitha		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2016/05/three-years-in-san-francisco#comment-382766</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ankitha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2016 17:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent one.. specially dz lines were too good &quot;most of the best ideas sounded stupid at one time, and if a good idea doesn’t sound stupid, many companies are probably already working on it.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent one.. specially dz lines were too good &#8220;most of the best ideas sounded stupid at one time, and if a good idea doesn’t sound stupid, many companies are probably already working on it.”</p>
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		By: Frank Dupire		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2016/05/three-years-in-san-francisco#comment-382739</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Dupire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2016 12:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great writing with great and honest thoughts. Working in IT as a Business System Analyst, I can understand that enabling changes requires more than a Ph. D, MBA and a PMP. In full mutatíon, our IT 3.0 generation (I come from the previous ones :-)) has a greater responsibility in terms of Governance, Business and System Requirements, Security, Privacy, Solutions, Quality, Implementation and Deployment. Impacts are not only technical or financial.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great writing with great and honest thoughts. Working in IT as a Business System Analyst, I can understand that enabling changes requires more than a Ph. D, MBA and a PMP. In full mutatíon, our IT 3.0 generation (I come from the previous ones :-)) has a greater responsibility in terms of Governance, Business and System Requirements, Security, Privacy, Solutions, Quality, Implementation and Deployment. Impacts are not only technical or financial.</p>
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		By: Anshul Kanpal		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2016/05/three-years-in-san-francisco#comment-382461</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anshul Kanpal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2016 06:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Beautiful post. I have never thought about Emotional Intelligence. It does certainly make a difference. While EI is not often thought during recruitment, it is should be a mandatory criteria during performance appraisal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful post. I have never thought about Emotional Intelligence. It does certainly make a difference. While EI is not often thought during recruitment, it is should be a mandatory criteria during performance appraisal.</p>
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		By: iris		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2016/05/three-years-in-san-francisco#comment-382336</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 07:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Mike,
thank you for the inspiring post!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mike,<br />
thank you for the inspiring post!</p>
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		By: Saurabh Hooda		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2016/05/three-years-in-san-francisco#comment-382333</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saurabh Hooda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 07:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello Mike,
Can you please elaborate a bit on Heat Sink concept as in &quot;it’s your job to be a “heat-sink” when conflict arises&quot;. Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Mike,<br />
Can you please elaborate a bit on Heat Sink concept as in &#8220;it’s your job to be a “heat-sink” when conflict arises&#8221;. Thanks.</p>
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		By: Lk		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2016/05/three-years-in-san-francisco#comment-382255</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2016 14:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Enjoyed the read]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyed the read</p>
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		By: Shu Yang		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2016/05/three-years-in-san-francisco#comment-382208</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shu Yang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2016 04:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This post was amazing and definitely helped me become comfortable with the idea that I won&#039;t always get everything right and that not being the best of the group is not only ok, but maybe even the best place to be. Thank you for sharing your learning experience and helping me rethink how I want to approach my future endeavors. Growing up as an Asian female in the Bay Area, this post has definitely helped me recognize some of my hidden privileges and make me realize how bless I am to grow up surrounded by this culture.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post was amazing and definitely helped me become comfortable with the idea that I won&#8217;t always get everything right and that not being the best of the group is not only ok, but maybe even the best place to be. Thank you for sharing your learning experience and helping me rethink how I want to approach my future endeavors. Growing up as an Asian female in the Bay Area, this post has definitely helped me recognize some of my hidden privileges and make me realize how bless I am to grow up surrounded by this culture.</p>
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		By: Sujal Shah		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2016/05/three-years-in-san-francisco#comment-382164</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sujal Shah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2016 17:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, I definitely didn&#039;t mean outcomes, especially measured by metrics. What I was describing was what you said: knowing the directions right. I was thinking vision. Taste as you described works, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I definitely didn&#8217;t mean outcomes, especially measured by metrics. What I was describing was what you said: knowing the directions right. I was thinking vision. Taste as you described works, too.</p>
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		By: Mike D.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2016/05/three-years-in-san-francisco#comment-382159</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2016 17:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks everyone!

Sujal: Yes, outcomes are important, but they are somewhat tangential to taste. I can design a feature that makes us all sick to our stomach that &quot;does well&quot; according to metrics. Taste says that the product you develop is in keeping with what you *believe* is a great experience (sometimes can be proven with metrics and sometimes can&#039;t).

Jash: As others have pointed out, yes, a meritocracy sounds good in theory, but that&#039;s not usually the actual dynamic that is in place. It&#039;s so much easier for well-off, well-connected people to get ahead in the workplace that we end up perpetuating a system that attributes &quot;merit&quot; to circumstance.

Will: Thanks, that sounds a lot like what I am talking about, for sure.

Jeffrey: Yep, situations where a team is working around a leader instead of in concert with a leader can come down to many things. At the end of the day, the team needs to buy into the leader&#039;s vision *and* the leader&#039;s way of operating. If either of these is absent (and they frequently are) that&#039;s when people route around leadership. Additionally, in middle management, sometimes it&#039;s not even the manager who is expected to provide the overall vision, so that makes it doubly tough to get the respect of the team.

Q: Yep, Halo Effect sounds similar as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone!</p>
<p>Sujal: Yes, outcomes are important, but they are somewhat tangential to taste. I can design a feature that makes us all sick to our stomach that &#8220;does well&#8221; according to metrics. Taste says that the product you develop is in keeping with what you *believe* is a great experience (sometimes can be proven with metrics and sometimes can&#8217;t).</p>
<p>Jash: As others have pointed out, yes, a meritocracy sounds good in theory, but that&#8217;s not usually the actual dynamic that is in place. It&#8217;s so much easier for well-off, well-connected people to get ahead in the workplace that we end up perpetuating a system that attributes &#8220;merit&#8221; to circumstance.</p>
<p>Will: Thanks, that sounds a lot like what I am talking about, for sure.</p>
<p>Jeffrey: Yep, situations where a team is working around a leader instead of in concert with a leader can come down to many things. At the end of the day, the team needs to buy into the leader&#8217;s vision *and* the leader&#8217;s way of operating. If either of these is absent (and they frequently are) that&#8217;s when people route around leadership. Additionally, in middle management, sometimes it&#8217;s not even the manager who is expected to provide the overall vision, so that makes it doubly tough to get the respect of the team.</p>
<p>Q: Yep, Halo Effect sounds similar as well.</p>
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		By: Brian Warren		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2016/05/three-years-in-san-francisco#comment-382151</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Warren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2016 16:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike,

Thank you for this post. I have long enjoyed your writing, and I&#039;m so looking forward to all the &quot;there will be another post dedicated to X&quot;. 

I&#039;m so glad you&#039;re back in Sunny Seattle!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>Thank you for this post. I have long enjoyed your writing, and I&#8217;m so looking forward to all the &#8220;there will be another post dedicated to X&#8221;. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m so glad you&#8217;re back in Sunny Seattle!</p>
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