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		By: Sally		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/10/fresh-bread-vs-good-bread#comment-41349</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just had the 2nd half of a Subway Grilled Chicken Breast sandwich.  Ate the first half yesterday.  Bread was good yesterday, kinda &#039;gooey&#039; or pasty today, but perhaps due to having gotten too much moisture from the lettuce, tomato, and olives.

Much more of a problem is the &#039;chicken breast&#039;.  It&#039;s not real chicken breast, but instead is a chopped and formed piece made with some kind of filler.  Does anyone know what&#039;s really in it?  The hot grill marks are ok, but what happens to the filler when too much heat is applied is odd - turns a shade of beige to deep caramel or even brownish.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just had the 2nd half of a Subway Grilled Chicken Breast sandwich.  Ate the first half yesterday.  Bread was good yesterday, kinda &#8216;gooey&#8217; or pasty today, but perhaps due to having gotten too much moisture from the lettuce, tomato, and olives.</p>
<p>Much more of a problem is the &#8216;chicken breast&#8217;.  It&#8217;s not real chicken breast, but instead is a chopped and formed piece made with some kind of filler.  Does anyone know what&#8217;s really in it?  The hot grill marks are ok, but what happens to the filler when too much heat is applied is odd &#8211; turns a shade of beige to deep caramel or even brownish.</p>
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		By: Mike D.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/10/fresh-bread-vs-good-bread#comment-39835</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Benjy: Yes, &quot;warm sponge&quot; is the perfect description for Subway bread. My thoughts exactly.

Chris: Yep, I was just thinking about that actually.  I need to add a &quot;View Results&quot; button to the Mike Industries polling system.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benjy: Yes, &#8220;warm sponge&#8221; is the perfect description for Subway bread. My thoughts exactly.</p>
<p>Chris: Yep, I was just thinking about that actually.  I need to add a &#8220;View Results&#8221; button to the Mike Industries polling system.</p>
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		By: Chris Hester		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/10/fresh-bread-vs-good-bread#comment-39833</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve never heard of Quizno&#039;s living in the UK so I can&#039;t vote there. How do I see the results of other people&#039;s votes though Mike? It&#039;s inaccessible unless I vote! (I can see why, to stop people voting for the clear favourite.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never heard of Quizno&#8217;s living in the UK so I can&#8217;t vote there. How do I see the results of other people&#8217;s votes though Mike? It&#8217;s inaccessible unless I vote! (I can see why, to stop people voting for the clear favourite.)</p>
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		By: phototristan		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/10/fresh-bread-vs-good-bread#comment-39717</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phototristan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve never liked Quizno&#039;s. It&#039;s something about the fact that the sandwich comes out hot on the outside but cold inside (as someone above mentioned) that seems strange.

I like Subway but not any of their fancy breads, just their standard white or wheat. I agree that their sourdough bread tastes bad, sorta off or chemically or something.

BTW, thanks for your &lt;a href=&quot;https://mikeindustries.com/blog/tenthings&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recommendation of Trader Joe&#039;s pizza&lt;/a&gt;. I agree, as frozen pizzas go and for the price, they cannot be beat!

 I used to buy the smaller ones and heard about 15 years ago that they were actually re-branded Wolfang Puck pizzas. But, I like the larger &#039;made in Italy&#039; ones better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never liked Quizno&#8217;s. It&#8217;s something about the fact that the sandwich comes out hot on the outside but cold inside (as someone above mentioned) that seems strange.</p>
<p>I like Subway but not any of their fancy breads, just their standard white or wheat. I agree that their sourdough bread tastes bad, sorta off or chemically or something.</p>
<p>BTW, thanks for your <a href="https://mikeindustries.com/blog/tenthings" rel="nofollow">recommendation of Trader Joe&#8217;s pizza</a>. I agree, as frozen pizzas go and for the price, they cannot be beat!</p>
<p> I used to buy the smaller ones and heard about 15 years ago that they were actually re-branded Wolfang Puck pizzas. But, I like the larger &#8216;made in Italy&#8217; ones better.</p>
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		By: Brade		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/10/fresh-bread-vs-good-bread#comment-39642</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good call with Firehouse. The New York Steamer is the best pastrami sub in existence, and those are hard to come by.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good call with Firehouse. The New York Steamer is the best pastrami sub in existence, and those are hard to come by.</p>
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		By: Steve L		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/10/fresh-bread-vs-good-bread#comment-39633</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m both surprised and saddened that NOBODY has mentioned Firehouse Subs.  I&#039;m not sure if it&#039;s their bread that makes the taste or what, but they are by far my favorite subs on the planet followed by Jimmy John&#039;s then Quizno&#039;s then Subway.

I dunno if they have them in Seattle, but if you&#039;re ever in Florida or Georgia Mike, you need to try Firehouse Subs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m both surprised and saddened that NOBODY has mentioned Firehouse Subs.  I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s their bread that makes the taste or what, but they are by far my favorite subs on the planet followed by Jimmy John&#8217;s then Quizno&#8217;s then Subway.</p>
<p>I dunno if they have them in Seattle, but if you&#8217;re ever in Florida or Georgia Mike, you need to try Firehouse Subs.</p>
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		By: Brade		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/10/fresh-bread-vs-good-bread#comment-39624</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 21:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Quizno&#039;s is violently superior to Subway and for my money is always great, especially the chicken carbonara sub.

As for Jimmy John&#039;s, I tried it once, but it was pretty submarginal. Maybe I&#039;ll try it again since everyone here&#039;s got their panties in a wad about how glorious it is, but I think it&#039;s inevitable that any internet argument will result in people choosing the &quot;dark horse&quot; candidate that&#039;s not even part of the discussion.

That being said, Jason&#039;s Deli is superior to all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quizno&#8217;s is violently superior to Subway and for my money is always great, especially the chicken carbonara sub.</p>
<p>As for Jimmy John&#8217;s, I tried it once, but it was pretty submarginal. Maybe I&#8217;ll try it again since everyone here&#8217;s got their panties in a wad about how glorious it is, but I think it&#8217;s inevitable that any internet argument will result in people choosing the &#8220;dark horse&#8221; candidate that&#8217;s not even part of the discussion.</p>
<p>That being said, Jason&#8217;s Deli is superior to all.</p>
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		By: David Szymakowski		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/10/fresh-bread-vs-good-bread#comment-39615</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Szymakowski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cousin Subs is still around is better than both Subway and Quiznos in quality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cousin Subs is still around is better than both Subway and Quiznos in quality.</p>
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		By: Mikey P		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/10/fresh-bread-vs-good-bread#comment-39614</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mikey P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I submit that we all aspire to desire a higher quality bread with average freshness.  However, I&#039;m willing to lay down some cash to say that most of us would take hot, average quality bread slathered in butter or oil over room temperature, high quality bread.  Not always, but most of the time.  

We don&#039;t have Jimmy John&#039;s here in central Florida, but you guys are making me hungry!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I submit that we all aspire to desire a higher quality bread with average freshness.  However, I&#8217;m willing to lay down some cash to say that most of us would take hot, average quality bread slathered in butter or oil over room temperature, high quality bread.  Not always, but most of the time.  </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t have Jimmy John&#8217;s here in central Florida, but you guys are making me hungry!</p>
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		By: Jeff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Subway and Quiznos both make lousy sandwiches.

$5 for that Subway sandwich seems like a ripoff.  For forty-nine cents more, I can go to a real deli across the street from them, get better service and a better sandwich.

When I was a kid, we used to go to a little italian deli that made subs with the fresh baked italian bread from the bakery right next door.  Haven&#039;t had a sandwich like that since.  Finest deli meat and super quality FRESH baked bread.  

We still go out of our way to get fresh baked breadand italian cookies from one of the finest bakeries in town: http://www.savoiapastry.com/ - They have been in business since 1929!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subway and Quiznos both make lousy sandwiches.</p>
<p>$5 for that Subway sandwich seems like a ripoff.  For forty-nine cents more, I can go to a real deli across the street from them, get better service and a better sandwich.</p>
<p>When I was a kid, we used to go to a little italian deli that made subs with the fresh baked italian bread from the bakery right next door.  Haven&#8217;t had a sandwich like that since.  Finest deli meat and super quality FRESH baked bread.  </p>
<p>We still go out of our way to get fresh baked breadand italian cookies from one of the finest bakeries in town: <a href="http://www.savoiapastry.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.savoiapastry.com/</a> &#8211; They have been in business since 1929!</p>
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		By: sc8tty		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/10/fresh-bread-vs-good-bread#comment-39610</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Quiznos has the best condiment bar in the history of condiment bars, and their sammies are much tastier. It&#039;s not even close. 

Subway is pretty fresh but the ingredients are not high quality.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quiznos has the best condiment bar in the history of condiment bars, and their sammies are much tastier. It&#8217;s not even close. </p>
<p>Subway is pretty fresh but the ingredients are not high quality.</p>
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		By: Pete		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh yeah, these days if I have to choose a fast-food type option I&#039;m a big fan of Culver&#039;s (http://www.culvers.com/)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, these days if I have to choose a fast-food type option I&#8217;m a big fan of Culver&#8217;s (<a href="http://www.culvers.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.culvers.com/</a>)</p>
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		By: Pete		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There used (still is I guess) to be a chain in MN called Cousin&#039;s (http://www.cousinssubs.com/menu/) which I recall having very good Italian hoagies, much superior to Subway.  They used to have a store convenient to me, but it closed up, so maybe I&#039;m just experiencing fond memories.  I do have a Jimmy Johns close by, they are tasty and good for a quick lunch fix, but I always seem to get hungry again about an hour after finishing one of their sandwiches (Chinese food syndrome?).

The thing I&#039;ve always disliked about Subway, other than the sub-par ingredients, is that if you don&#039;t give specific instructions to your &#039;sandwich artist&#039;, they will slather everything with Mayo from top to bottom.  Not spread it on the bread, but poop it out from one of their ubiquitous condiment bottles.  I suspect they may be a subsidiary of Hellman&#039;s.

But I agree with others who&#039;ve said, if I can find a local mom-n-pop type place, I much prefer that option.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There used (still is I guess) to be a chain in MN called Cousin&#8217;s (<a href="http://www.cousinssubs.com/menu/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.cousinssubs.com/menu/</a>) which I recall having very good Italian hoagies, much superior to Subway.  They used to have a store convenient to me, but it closed up, so maybe I&#8217;m just experiencing fond memories.  I do have a Jimmy Johns close by, they are tasty and good for a quick lunch fix, but I always seem to get hungry again about an hour after finishing one of their sandwiches (Chinese food syndrome?).</p>
<p>The thing I&#8217;ve always disliked about Subway, other than the sub-par ingredients, is that if you don&#8217;t give specific instructions to your &#8216;sandwich artist&#8217;, they will slather everything with Mayo from top to bottom.  Not spread it on the bread, but poop it out from one of their ubiquitous condiment bottles.  I suspect they may be a subsidiary of Hellman&#8217;s.</p>
<p>But I agree with others who&#8217;ve said, if I can find a local mom-n-pop type place, I much prefer that option.</p>
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		By: Brian Ford		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh.

FWIW, I&#039;ll take Jimmy John&#039;s over either of them as well. I always get their wheat bread instead of their French Bread though, and I always order the #12, which has avocado on it, which isn&#039;t available on any sandwich at Subway *or* Quiznos, which is a sin.

Mr. Goodcents is pretty good, as well.

For those complaining about how your food is handled at Subway - you should probably just accept that what happens to the food *at any fast food restaurant staffed by high school kids* while you&#039;re not watching is going to make your stomach turn. Just pretend otherwise, and enjoy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh.</p>
<p>FWIW, I&#8217;ll take Jimmy John&#8217;s over either of them as well. I always get their wheat bread instead of their French Bread though, and I always order the #12, which has avocado on it, which isn&#8217;t available on any sandwich at Subway *or* Quiznos, which is a sin.</p>
<p>Mr. Goodcents is pretty good, as well.</p>
<p>For those complaining about how your food is handled at Subway &#8211; you should probably just accept that what happens to the food *at any fast food restaurant staffed by high school kids* while you&#8217;re not watching is going to make your stomach turn. Just pretend otherwise, and enjoy.</p>
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		By: Brian Ford		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First and foremost, I can&#039;t go to Quiznos and order a...

Footlong Roasted Chicken Breast on Wheat with Lettuce, Cucumbers and Green Peppers, Spicy Mustard, Mayonnaise, Salt &#038; Pepper and Oil &#038; Vinegar

...?

 Hrm. No? Therefore, it can&#039;t compete with Subway.

Second, and less importantly, doesn&#039;t Quiznos send all their bread through that crisper oven, which makes it all dry?

Plus, Quiznos takes *forever* if there&#039;s a line of any size at all. And their selection of condiments / ordering strategy is confusing, which is probably why their lines run so slowly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First and foremost, I can&#8217;t go to Quiznos and order a&#8230;</p>
<p>Footlong Roasted Chicken Breast on Wheat with Lettuce, Cucumbers and Green Peppers, Spicy Mustard, Mayonnaise, Salt &amp; Pepper and Oil &amp; Vinegar</p>
<p>&#8230;?</p>
<p> Hrm. No? Therefore, it can&#8217;t compete with Subway.</p>
<p>Second, and less importantly, doesn&#8217;t Quiznos send all their bread through that crisper oven, which makes it all dry?</p>
<p>Plus, Quiznos takes *forever* if there&#8217;s a line of any size at all. And their selection of condiments / ordering strategy is confusing, which is probably why their lines run so slowly.</p>
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