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		By: kit_cat		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/07/when-your-neighbor-builds-a-jackass-home#comment-77197</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kit_cat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 04:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I realize that this debate was taking place quite some time ago. Today I had an interview with Mr. Gramm at his home. I would like to say that his home is absolutely stunning inside and out! It was an architectural masterpiece and Mr. Gramm was extremely nice. I can&#039;t imagine why having a thirty foot concrete wall to the side of your home is such a huge deal when all you have to do is look FORWARD and you have all of Lake Washington? And if there wasn&#039;t a wall what would you be looking at? Your neighbors home? Do you often spend time staring at your neighbors property? Honestly! It&#039;s not like he built it in FRONT of your house.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize that this debate was taking place quite some time ago. Today I had an interview with Mr. Gramm at his home. I would like to say that his home is absolutely stunning inside and out! It was an architectural masterpiece and Mr. Gramm was extremely nice. I can&#8217;t imagine why having a thirty foot concrete wall to the side of your home is such a huge deal when all you have to do is look FORWARD and you have all of Lake Washington? And if there wasn&#8217;t a wall what would you be looking at? Your neighbors home? Do you often spend time staring at your neighbors property? Honestly! It&#8217;s not like he built it in FRONT of your house.</p>
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		By: Lamar		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/07/when-your-neighbor-builds-a-jackass-home#comment-41650</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lamar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 08:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m personally offended by the site of most of the houses that front Lake Washington, which surrounds Mercer Island. There are so many more of these ugly pieces of horse sh__. Five of these huge McMansions went up next to I90 on Mercer Island, nearly causing a major accident everyday as commuters puke their guts out passing them. So mister my sh__ looks better than your sh__, shut your farking pie hole.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m personally offended by the site of most of the houses that front Lake Washington, which surrounds Mercer Island. There are so many more of these ugly pieces of horse sh__. Five of these huge McMansions went up next to I90 on Mercer Island, nearly causing a major accident everyday as commuters puke their guts out passing them. So mister my sh__ looks better than your sh__, shut your farking pie hole.</p>
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		By: AJ		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/07/when-your-neighbor-builds-a-jackass-home#comment-41552</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No offense intended, but am I correct in assuming everyone involved here is a multi-millionaire? Frankly, having a slightly ugly monster house next to your pastiche-colonial-mansion monster house is the supreme case of a first world problem. Here&#039;s a challenge more worth of you folks, all creative and well-connected: Help build enough decent housing in New Orleans for the people who are STILL living in FEMA trailers post-Katrina. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offense intended, but am I correct in assuming everyone involved here is a multi-millionaire? Frankly, having a slightly ugly monster house next to your pastiche-colonial-mansion monster house is the supreme case of a first world problem. Here&#8217;s a challenge more worth of you folks, all creative and well-connected: Help build enough decent housing in New Orleans for the people who are STILL living in FEMA trailers post-Katrina. </p>
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		By: Mike D.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/07/when-your-neighbor-builds-a-jackass-home#comment-41399</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John: Interesting... I like the mural idea. I&#039;m in the process of demolishing my house right now to build a new one and although I was much more polite with my building plans than Cobb&#039;s client, I feel very lucky to have nice, understanding neighbors.  I feel like living in the middle of a neighborhood feud would reduce everyone&#039;s happiness by a large amount, and thus reduce intrinsic property value as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John: Interesting&#8230; I like the mural idea. I&#8217;m in the process of demolishing my house right now to build a new one and although I was much more polite with my building plans than Cobb&#8217;s client, I feel very lucky to have nice, understanding neighbors.  I feel like living in the middle of a neighborhood feud would reduce everyone&#8217;s happiness by a large amount, and thus reduce intrinsic property value as well.</p>
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		By: John Haggard		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/07/when-your-neighbor-builds-a-jackass-home#comment-41398</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Haggard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow, I ran into this feud after watching the home being built. I always was scratching my head on what it would look like and then I saw the feud. 

Here is my documentation: http://picasaweb.google.com/jhaggard1/MercerIslandNeighborlyLove#. 

One thing that saddens me is the sign placed at the foot of the complainant’s slide for their children, not a good example for young people.  

My solution would to make amends with the neighbor and to jointly commission a top rate artist to turn that concrete wall into a mural that would make both home owners proud. 

The sign(s), humorous at first are massive indicators of deep unhappiness (with or without the offending design). Might wish to proof read the signs as well. 

Let’s hope they turn this around. 

Fan of the Lake.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I ran into this feud after watching the home being built. I always was scratching my head on what it would look like and then I saw the feud. </p>
<p>Here is my documentation: <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/jhaggard1/MercerIslandNeighborlyLove#" rel="nofollow ugc">http://picasaweb.google.com/jhaggard1/MercerIslandNeighborlyLove#</a>. </p>
<p>One thing that saddens me is the sign placed at the foot of the complainant’s slide for their children, not a good example for young people.  </p>
<p>My solution would to make amends with the neighbor and to jointly commission a top rate artist to turn that concrete wall into a mural that would make both home owners proud. </p>
<p>The sign(s), humorous at first are massive indicators of deep unhappiness (with or without the offending design). Might wish to proof read the signs as well. </p>
<p>Let’s hope they turn this around. </p>
<p>Fan of the Lake.</p>
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		By: Where's the Sign?		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/07/when-your-neighbor-builds-a-jackass-home#comment-41346</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Where's the Sign?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 14:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike,

Just stumbled upon this, several months later, and was struck by the insistence that the sign was temporary, although there were no indications by Greg either in your on-dock discussion or by him in the post.  

Is the sign still up? That would make it less than temporary, and a tick in favor of all who are asking who is the real jerk here?  If it&#039;s down, then it&#039;s down and a tick in your argument&#039;s favor.

Greg, about the thumbs up from passers by, that&#039;s unprovable evidence because you aren&#039;t able to count the people who are boating past thinking the sign is a bad idea, nor the people who are boating past saying, that is going to be a gorgeous house and worth being stacked up on each other.  

You are arguing to contradictory points as well, both the wall is ugly, but its not about aesthetics its about privacy.  I agree with the some sort of trees native to your area, especially something you like looking at.

Privacy is a strange thing.  What exactly do you do in your house/yard that curtains or a pergola etc,  can&#039;t protect your privacy?  I apparently have a less developed sense of privacy or more of a proclivity to draw the curtains at night so people on the sidewalk don&#039;t see me watching TV in my boxers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>Just stumbled upon this, several months later, and was struck by the insistence that the sign was temporary, although there were no indications by Greg either in your on-dock discussion or by him in the post.  </p>
<p>Is the sign still up? That would make it less than temporary, and a tick in favor of all who are asking who is the real jerk here?  If it&#8217;s down, then it&#8217;s down and a tick in your argument&#8217;s favor.</p>
<p>Greg, about the thumbs up from passers by, that&#8217;s unprovable evidence because you aren&#8217;t able to count the people who are boating past thinking the sign is a bad idea, nor the people who are boating past saying, that is going to be a gorgeous house and worth being stacked up on each other.  </p>
<p>You are arguing to contradictory points as well, both the wall is ugly, but its not about aesthetics its about privacy.  I agree with the some sort of trees native to your area, especially something you like looking at.</p>
<p>Privacy is a strange thing.  What exactly do you do in your house/yard that curtains or a pergola etc,  can&#8217;t protect your privacy?  I apparently have a less developed sense of privacy or more of a proclivity to draw the curtains at night so people on the sidewalk don&#8217;t see me watching TV in my boxers.</p>
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		By: Not Greg		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/07/when-your-neighbor-builds-a-jackass-home#comment-34358</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Not Greg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Welcome to living with neighbors greg.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to living with neighbors greg.</p>
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		By: Greg		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/07/when-your-neighbor-builds-a-jackass-home#comment-34218</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 05:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[my sign got a lot of people talking. thats a good thing to me. it also drew attention to a house that was built in a very offensive way. thats also a good thing.
Thats all I really care about. 
As I said above, if I give pause to some other idiot that thinks shoving his Ego statement in front of all his neighbors is acceptable behavior then good.

In the end, its about whats &quot;cool&quot;. most of us understand that. it&#039;s &quot;cool&quot; to drive a multi colored VW van with flowers all over it. its not cool to drive it at 50 MPH down the freeway while slowing traffic. its &quot;cool&quot; to like weird art, its not cool to stick it all over your yard and force everyone to look at it. the house next door may be &quot;cool&quot; in its design (to each his own). how it sits on the lot and agressively denies the neighbors privacy is NOT COOL. 

Anyone can figure that out, and thats likely why 100% of the people that cruise by give the thumbs up and state their disgust with the house and how it sits. (BTW, the more you look at it, the more stupid it really appears)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my sign got a lot of people talking. thats a good thing to me. it also drew attention to a house that was built in a very offensive way. thats also a good thing.<br />
Thats all I really care about.<br />
As I said above, if I give pause to some other idiot that thinks shoving his Ego statement in front of all his neighbors is acceptable behavior then good.</p>
<p>In the end, its about whats &#8220;cool&#8221;. most of us understand that. it&#8217;s &#8220;cool&#8221; to drive a multi colored VW van with flowers all over it. its not cool to drive it at 50 MPH down the freeway while slowing traffic. its &#8220;cool&#8221; to like weird art, its not cool to stick it all over your yard and force everyone to look at it. the house next door may be &#8220;cool&#8221; in its design (to each his own). how it sits on the lot and agressively denies the neighbors privacy is NOT COOL. </p>
<p>Anyone can figure that out, and thats likely why 100% of the people that cruise by give the thumbs up and state their disgust with the house and how it sits. (BTW, the more you look at it, the more stupid it really appears)</p>
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		By: Mike D.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/07/when-your-neighbor-builds-a-jackass-home#comment-34201</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 01:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My_View_Got_Wiped_Out:  I&#039;m not sure I will have the neighbors actually attending design meetings, but I&#039;ve already identified a few areas where I will have my neighbors in mind during the design stage:

1.  My neighbors to the east cannot see the water because the existing house already blocks them.  They can probably just see maybe the upper tips of the mountains from their upper level.  Although my house may get taller in some areas, I&#039;m thinking about taking out the trees on the right side of the property to give them a possible peek-a-boo of the water through the sideyard.  If their view actually ends up being better after I&#039;m done, then great!

2.  I&#039;m going to tear out the existing fence between my house and my neighbor to the north and rebuild it.  It&#039;s very low in one spot which reduces privacy for me but allows them to see southward towards Elliott Bay.  I am going to keep the fence low enough so they do not lose this visibility.

3.  Although I want the master bedroom to face northwest, I am taking care to make sure it has no visibility into the neighbor&#039;s house to the north.

Additionally, I&#039;ve already met a lot of neighbors from the block (there have been two block parties over the last month!  awesome) and everyone I&#039;ve talked to has been extremely supportive of getting rid of what&#039;s there and replacing it with a modern home.  The more nice houses on this block, the better it is for everyone&#039;s property value.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My_View_Got_Wiped_Out:  I&#8217;m not sure I will have the neighbors actually attending design meetings, but I&#8217;ve already identified a few areas where I will have my neighbors in mind during the design stage:</p>
<p>1.  My neighbors to the east cannot see the water because the existing house already blocks them.  They can probably just see maybe the upper tips of the mountains from their upper level.  Although my house may get taller in some areas, I&#8217;m thinking about taking out the trees on the right side of the property to give them a possible peek-a-boo of the water through the sideyard.  If their view actually ends up being better after I&#8217;m done, then great!</p>
<p>2.  I&#8217;m going to tear out the existing fence between my house and my neighbor to the north and rebuild it.  It&#8217;s very low in one spot which reduces privacy for me but allows them to see southward towards Elliott Bay.  I am going to keep the fence low enough so they do not lose this visibility.</p>
<p>3.  Although I want the master bedroom to face northwest, I am taking care to make sure it has no visibility into the neighbor&#8217;s house to the north.</p>
<p>Additionally, I&#8217;ve already met a lot of neighbors from the block (there have been two block parties over the last month!  awesome) and everyone I&#8217;ve talked to has been extremely supportive of getting rid of what&#8217;s there and replacing it with a modern home.  The more nice houses on this block, the better it is for everyone&#8217;s property value.</p>
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		By: My_View_Got_Wiped_Out		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/07/when-your-neighbor-builds-a-jackass-home#comment-34199</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[My_View_Got_Wiped_Out]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 01:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting debate. 

Mike - curious, are you going to invite your future neighbors to some or all of your meetings with your designers/builders? (just got done reading your other site, A House In The Park). If you do, you&#039;ll probably get a feel-good groovy feeling first meeting, then it would turn to nausea as you realize the can of worms you opened up. You can&#039;t please everyone all the time. Especially when it comes to an individuals taste in architecture. Sure you&#039;re a smart guy, taking extra care, extra thought into every move you make but your future house is still going to be labeled an eyesore by someone close by. Guarantee it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting debate. </p>
<p>Mike &#8211; curious, are you going to invite your future neighbors to some or all of your meetings with your designers/builders? (just got done reading your other site, A House In The Park). If you do, you&#8217;ll probably get a feel-good groovy feeling first meeting, then it would turn to nausea as you realize the can of worms you opened up. You can&#8217;t please everyone all the time. Especially when it comes to an individuals taste in architecture. Sure you&#8217;re a smart guy, taking extra care, extra thought into every move you make but your future house is still going to be labeled an eyesore by someone close by. Guarantee it.</p>
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		By: Mike D.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/07/when-your-neighbor-builds-a-jackass-home#comment-34133</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 17:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MercerIslandShoreline: I don&#039;t know.  I think while it may have some truth to it, it&#039;s no way to live your life.  If everybody thought that no matter what they do, bad things will happen to them, then nobody would do anything good.  Me personally, I couldn&#039;t even live with myself if I was Justin Gramm.  If I&#039;m Eric Cobb, maybe, because I could at least rationalize my way out of any blame saying that I&#039;m just doing what my client asked.  But if I&#039;m Justin, I just materially devalued at least one and possibly both of my neighbors properties.  There is no getting around that fact.  Yes, I had the &quot;right&quot; to do it, but that doesn&#039;t mean it was morally the right thing to do. Forget about Greg for a second, and look at Maggie&#039;s comment above (she is the neighbor who got the even shorter end of the stick):

&lt;blockquote&gt;We have built two homes on MI and each time the architect has made sure that the design did not obstruct the view or privacy of the homes on either side of us.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Here is a lady who has tried to do (and done) the right thing whenever she has built houses in the past, and what happens to her?  She is now part of Justin Gramm&#039;s fishbowl.  Sort of backs up your &quot;no good deed&quot; theory, but again, I don&#039;t think that excuses this sort of contempt for your neighbors.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MercerIslandShoreline: I don&#8217;t know.  I think while it may have some truth to it, it&#8217;s no way to live your life.  If everybody thought that no matter what they do, bad things will happen to them, then nobody would do anything good.  Me personally, I couldn&#8217;t even live with myself if I was Justin Gramm.  If I&#8217;m Eric Cobb, maybe, because I could at least rationalize my way out of any blame saying that I&#8217;m just doing what my client asked.  But if I&#8217;m Justin, I just materially devalued at least one and possibly both of my neighbors properties.  There is no getting around that fact.  Yes, I had the &#8220;right&#8221; to do it, but that doesn&#8217;t mean it was morally the right thing to do. Forget about Greg for a second, and look at Maggie&#8217;s comment above (she is the neighbor who got the even shorter end of the stick):</p>
<blockquote><p>We have built two homes on MI and each time the architect has made sure that the design did not obstruct the view or privacy of the homes on either side of us.</p></blockquote>
<p>Here is a lady who has tried to do (and done) the right thing whenever she has built houses in the past, and what happens to her?  She is now part of Justin Gramm&#8217;s fishbowl.  Sort of backs up your &#8220;no good deed&#8221; theory, but again, I don&#8217;t think that excuses this sort of contempt for your neighbors.</p>
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		By: MercerIslandShoreline		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/07/when-your-neighbor-builds-a-jackass-home#comment-34118</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MercerIslandShoreline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 07:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike, that&#039;s quite nobel of you to think that way.  I wish all people were that considerate.  Have you ever heard the phrase &quot;no good deed goes unpunished&quot;?  What&#039;s your thought on that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, that&#8217;s quite nobel of you to think that way.  I wish all people were that considerate.  Have you ever heard the phrase &#8220;no good deed goes unpunished&#8221;?  What&#8217;s your thought on that?</p>
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		By: Mike D.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/07/when-your-neighbor-builds-a-jackass-home#comment-34063</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 17:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MK: I&#039;m not sure it&#039;s not serving a purpose.  I&#039;m about to build a house, and although I wasn&#039;t planning on crushing my neighbors in the process before, it&#039;s definitely made me hyper-aware of the issue. Even more so than I was before. I also read a comment up above about how the Mercer Island local government may revise their code to prohibit things like this.  Who knows if that will happen, but if it does, great.  While you&#039;re right in that the sign isn&#039;t going to change the house itself, it may help change (in a small way) the perception that we are entitled to build whatever we want in this world without guilt, shame, or other negative consequences manifested by those we live near.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MK: I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s not serving a purpose.  I&#8217;m about to build a house, and although I wasn&#8217;t planning on crushing my neighbors in the process before, it&#8217;s definitely made me hyper-aware of the issue. Even more so than I was before. I also read a comment up above about how the Mercer Island local government may revise their code to prohibit things like this.  Who knows if that will happen, but if it does, great.  While you&#8217;re right in that the sign isn&#8217;t going to change the house itself, it may help change (in a small way) the perception that we are entitled to build whatever we want in this world without guilt, shame, or other negative consequences manifested by those we live near.</p>
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		By: MK		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/07/when-your-neighbor-builds-a-jackass-home#comment-34055</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah I&#039;ve lived in a diverse array of places and I&#039;d have to say there is a higher concentration of P/A people in Seattle than I&#039;ve encountered anywhere else I&#039;ve lived. 

I just find it fascinating that as the author of the sign, Greg has worried himself so many times with defending himself on your blog. Not that there&#039;s any better place to handle it, but honestly why does he even care to participate in this forum? Greg will merely do what he wants. He already has in  posting the sign. What does it matter to him what we all think of his actions? 

It&#039;s not like someone will post the magical comment  and he&#039;ll change his mind and remove the sign.

So I guess I could echo his last question and redirect it back at Greg... What&#039;s the point of all this? 

Neither side is convincing the other, really. Whether in the forum or over at J&#8899;stin&#039;s house. Take the sign down and stop defending why you put it up in the first place. It&#039;s serving absolutely no purpose physically. (Namely it&#039;s not moving or changing the house.) Which is the only response which will satisfy your disdain, Greg. 

Your sign will not make the concrete wall go away, nor the fourth floor come down a notch or two. 

Exercise in the right to make nasty signage... ok. Yeah. Check. Successful.

Exercise resulting in actually getting something resolved. Not so much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I&#8217;ve lived in a diverse array of places and I&#8217;d have to say there is a higher concentration of P/A people in Seattle than I&#8217;ve encountered anywhere else I&#8217;ve lived. </p>
<p>I just find it fascinating that as the author of the sign, Greg has worried himself so many times with defending himself on your blog. Not that there&#8217;s any better place to handle it, but honestly why does he even care to participate in this forum? Greg will merely do what he wants. He already has in  posting the sign. What does it matter to him what we all think of his actions? </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like someone will post the magical comment  and he&#8217;ll change his mind and remove the sign.</p>
<p>So I guess I could echo his last question and redirect it back at Greg&#8230; What&#8217;s the point of all this? </p>
<p>Neither side is convincing the other, really. Whether in the forum or over at J&#8899;stin&#8217;s house. Take the sign down and stop defending why you put it up in the first place. It&#8217;s serving absolutely no purpose physically. (Namely it&#8217;s not moving or changing the house.) Which is the only response which will satisfy your disdain, Greg. </p>
<p>Your sign will not make the concrete wall go away, nor the fourth floor come down a notch or two. </p>
<p>Exercise in the right to make nasty signage&#8230; ok. Yeah. Check. Successful.</p>
<p>Exercise resulting in actually getting something resolved. Not so much.</p>
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		By: Mike D.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MercerIslandShoreline: 1) Defamation of character involved libel or slander.  Neither have occurred here, to my knowledge. Libel and slander both have very clear legal definitions and each involves the presentation of false &lt;strong&gt;facts&lt;/strong&gt;, not opinions. 2) I doubt many people go around doing Google searches for {insert name here} and &quot;jackass&quot;.

MK: I&#039;m not sure Greg requires the approval of anyone here. He&#039;s just defending his stance against a large group of visitors who all came from the same architecture forum site (not mine). You&#039;re probably right in that it&#039;s barking up the wrong tree though, and you&#039;re definitely right about people being passive-aggressive up here in Seattle... I&#039;ve definitely noticed that at times. Not sure how it compares to the rest of the country though. There are probably P/A people everywhere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MercerIslandShoreline: 1) Defamation of character involved libel or slander.  Neither have occurred here, to my knowledge. Libel and slander both have very clear legal definitions and each involves the presentation of false <strong>facts</strong>, not opinions. 2) I doubt many people go around doing Google searches for {insert name here} and &#8220;jackass&#8221;.</p>
<p>MK: I&#8217;m not sure Greg requires the approval of anyone here. He&#8217;s just defending his stance against a large group of visitors who all came from the same architecture forum site (not mine). You&#8217;re probably right in that it&#8217;s barking up the wrong tree though, and you&#8217;re definitely right about people being passive-aggressive up here in Seattle&#8230; I&#8217;ve definitely noticed that at times. Not sure how it compares to the rest of the country though. There are probably P/A people everywhere.</p>
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