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		By: Will Merydith		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/01/completing-the-cycle-of-news#comment-32262</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Will Merydith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First let me say that the integration between MSNBC and Newsvine is cool and you should be proud.  But I find myself spending more time on Newsvine than in the MSNBC portion of the feedback loop.  In fact lately the ratio is something like 99/1

Why?  Because putting anchors like Brian Williams into the mix is like digging up a fossil.  It&#039;s interesting to to look at and think back on, but they are out of place. 

I mean contrary to your perception, I don&#039;t see Brian&#039;s answers as being off the cuff.   When dealt tough questions about the role of media for example, I find his answers defensive, archaic and maintaining the status quo of big networks.   I still feel the bad taste in my mouth when he responded to questions from Newsvine viewers unhappy with the practice of networks reporting election results on the east coast before polls were closed on the west - Brian basically dismissed the question as lofty idealism and defended business as usual. 

On one hand it&#039;s encouraging big media like MSNBC and CNN scrambling to integrate and grow with the direction of media online, but on the other hand they seem more parasitic than participatory.  What I would hope to see, and maybe it requires some patience on my part, is that by migrating to the new media paradigms, they re-discover the practice of good journalism - because anyone paying attention can tell they&#039;ve lost that practice by and large.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First let me say that the integration between MSNBC and Newsvine is cool and you should be proud.  But I find myself spending more time on Newsvine than in the MSNBC portion of the feedback loop.  In fact lately the ratio is something like 99/1</p>
<p>Why?  Because putting anchors like Brian Williams into the mix is like digging up a fossil.  It&#8217;s interesting to to look at and think back on, but they are out of place. </p>
<p>I mean contrary to your perception, I don&#8217;t see Brian&#8217;s answers as being off the cuff.   When dealt tough questions about the role of media for example, I find his answers defensive, archaic and maintaining the status quo of big networks.   I still feel the bad taste in my mouth when he responded to questions from Newsvine viewers unhappy with the practice of networks reporting election results on the east coast before polls were closed on the west &#8211; Brian basically dismissed the question as lofty idealism and defended business as usual. </p>
<p>On one hand it&#8217;s encouraging big media like MSNBC and CNN scrambling to integrate and grow with the direction of media online, but on the other hand they seem more parasitic than participatory.  What I would hope to see, and maybe it requires some patience on my part, is that by migrating to the new media paradigms, they re-discover the practice of good journalism &#8211; because anyone paying attention can tell they&#8217;ve lost that practice by and large.</p>
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		By: Sam McDonald		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/01/completing-the-cycle-of-news#comment-32024</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam McDonald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike,

I am with Ryan and would definitely like to hear more about how a smaller company&#039;s role changes, when bought out by a larger company.  Also, it is good to hear that both brands will remain separate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I am with Ryan and would definitely like to hear more about how a smaller company&#8217;s role changes, when bought out by a larger company.  Also, it is good to hear that both brands will remain separate.</p>
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		By: Mike D.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mykola: Yep, I just took a week in Hawaii in December.
Ryan: Only time will tell, but so far everything has gone really well and msnbc has been a big net plus to Newsvine. They&#039;ve also made it abundantly clear that both brands (and offices) will remain separate and we are free to continue running the site mostly as we always have.

Don: Sports news? Example?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mykola: Yep, I just took a week in Hawaii in December.<br />
Ryan: Only time will tell, but so far everything has gone really well and msnbc has been a big net plus to Newsvine. They&#8217;ve also made it abundantly clear that both brands (and offices) will remain separate and we are free to continue running the site mostly as we always have.</p>
<p>Don: Sports news? Example?</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This isn&#039;t all that unique really though Mike, sports news has been doing it for a while.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t all that unique really though Mike, sports news has been doing it for a while.</p>
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		By: Rhys Thomas		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/01/completing-the-cycle-of-news#comment-32008</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rhys Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 03:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not been on your site for a while, or newsvine for that matter, due to various reasons, but I can honestly say that might be the coolest thing I&#039;ve ever seen. If only we could do the same thing in England it would make the news worth watching/talking about again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not been on your site for a while, or newsvine for that matter, due to various reasons, but I can honestly say that might be the coolest thing I&#8217;ve ever seen. If only we could do the same thing in England it would make the news worth watching/talking about again.</p>
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		By: Magnetbox - links for 2008-02-02		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Magnetbox - links for 2008-02-02]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Completing the cycle of news News agency broadcasts the news -&#062; audience discusses the content -&#062; audience shoots back questions to the anchor -&#062; anchor answers (select) questions right on the site (tags: web news television msnbc newsvine work) [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Completing the cycle of news News agency broadcasts the news -&gt; audience discusses the content -&gt; audience shoots back questions to the anchor -&gt; anchor answers (select) questions right on the site (tags: web news television msnbc newsvine work) [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: andrew korf		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andrew korf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 18:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow. Great post and great evolution of news - I think it is interesting how I am now friends with the newsmakers and journalists i used to read via their blogs or on facebook now - and learn so much more via that 1 to 1 communication - as I suspect they do. Also emerging on news2.0 is the emergence of real time streaming video via the web... I think what scoble is up to with qik.com is amazing - citizen journalism on the rise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Great post and great evolution of news &#8211; I think it is interesting how I am now friends with the newsmakers and journalists i used to read via their blogs or on facebook now &#8211; and learn so much more via that 1 to 1 communication &#8211; as I suspect they do. Also emerging on news2.0 is the emergence of real time streaming video via the web&#8230; I think what scoble is up to with qik.com is amazing &#8211; citizen journalism on the rise.</p>
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		By: David Szymakowski		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/01/completing-the-cycle-of-news#comment-32000</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Szymakowski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 14:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s a great idea, and defiantly a step in the right direction for the media world.  Maybe I&#039;m a little bias since I already enjoy the NBC nightly news over the other media outlets out there, but NBC seems to be really re-thinking the way to &#039;communicate&#039; will people. Like you said Mike, it&#039;s about time someone recognized that we are note just sponges.
Good work, keep it up!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a great idea, and defiantly a step in the right direction for the media world.  Maybe I&#8217;m a little bias since I already enjoy the NBC nightly news over the other media outlets out there, but NBC seems to be really re-thinking the way to &#8216;communicate&#8217; will people. Like you said Mike, it&#8217;s about time someone recognized that we are note just sponges.<br />
Good work, keep it up!</p>
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		By: Philip Renich		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Renich]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 11:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Super significant, definitely! Wow, Mike, this sounds like something that is going to really change the news and media! Well done!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Super significant, definitely! Wow, Mike, this sounds like something that is going to really change the news and media! Well done!</p>
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		By: Chad Edge		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/01/completing-the-cycle-of-news#comment-31993</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chad Edge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 02:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sweet Mamajama, Mike. I can&#039;t tell you how much your work, your methods, and your drive helps me in day-to-day discussions at my place of employ.
Sometimes, it takes a bit of sizzle like this to make sense of the user experience providing a two-way influence over media (instead of content being published and dead-ending with user commentary). Seeing the user input go back upstream makes me tingle.

Fantastic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet Mamajama, Mike. I can&#8217;t tell you how much your work, your methods, and your drive helps me in day-to-day discussions at my place of employ.<br />
Sometimes, it takes a bit of sizzle like this to make sense of the user experience providing a two-way influence over media (instead of content being published and dead-ending with user commentary). Seeing the user input go back upstream makes me tingle.</p>
<p>Fantastic.</p>
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		By: Ryan Holiday		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/01/completing-the-cycle-of-news#comment-31992</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan Holiday]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 02:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d be curious to hear your thoughts, since the cycle I&#039;ve always seen is entrepreneur comes up with a great idea, is acquired by a larger company, comes up with more great ideas which meet some initial success, DNA of major company slowly kills it. (a la Calacanis at AOL)

I&#039;m not asking the cliche, &quot;what makes you think you&#039;re different?&quot; question or anything like that. More, what are you doing differently to make sure this doesn&#039;t happen to you? So we can learn from it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be curious to hear your thoughts, since the cycle I&#8217;ve always seen is entrepreneur comes up with a great idea, is acquired by a larger company, comes up with more great ideas which meet some initial success, DNA of major company slowly kills it. (a la Calacanis at AOL)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not asking the cliche, &#8220;what makes you think you&#8217;re different?&#8221; question or anything like that. More, what are you doing differently to make sure this doesn&#8217;t happen to you? So we can learn from it.</p>
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		By: Rob L.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/01/completing-the-cycle-of-news#comment-31991</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 02:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yep, that&#039;s fantastic. Nice work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, that&#8217;s fantastic. Nice work.</p>
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		By: Beth		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/01/completing-the-cycle-of-news#comment-31990</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 02:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a huge step forward for news in this country!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a huge step forward for news in this country!</p>
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		By: Bradley		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2008/01/completing-the-cycle-of-news#comment-31989</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bradley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 01:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe I&#039;m biased because this is partly my baby, but I just think that is super cool, and super significant.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Indeed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maybe I&#8217;m biased because this is partly my baby, but I just think that is super cool, and super significant.</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed.</p>
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		By: Mykola Bilokonsky		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mykola Bilokonsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 01:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is pretty rad, Mike.  The direct responses to community members were a nice touch, as well - I think it will go a long way towards getting people to participate proactively and towards healing this perceived rift between MSM and Citizen Journalism or whatever it is we do on newsvine.

Very well done.  I know Calvin has his vacation coming up, how about you?  You deserve one!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is pretty rad, Mike.  The direct responses to community members were a nice touch, as well &#8211; I think it will go a long way towards getting people to participate proactively and towards healing this perceived rift between MSM and Citizen Journalism or whatever it is we do on newsvine.</p>
<p>Very well done.  I know Calvin has his vacation coming up, how about you?  You deserve one!</p>
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