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		By: La bÃºsqueda de la belleza &#124; BLOJER		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/virb-vs-myspace#comment-33760</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[La bÃºsqueda de la belleza &#124; BLOJER]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Mike Davidson, explicando el Ã©xito de MySpace. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Mike Davidson, explicando el Ã©xito de MySpace. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Vihjai Raven		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/virb-vs-myspace#comment-32971</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vihjai Raven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 18:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve read the article, checked out the site, thought about it and decided not to sign up.

Why?

I&#039;m a member of so many sites now that I can barely keep up with them. I am on Facebook, MySpace and a lot more. I really don&#039;t have time to sign up, post my information, create a blog, customize everything and start a new friends list here. I was on Live Journal for a while, but left it due to rude people and lack of time...plus, I just didn&#039;t like it at all.

I know I&#039;m going to get cyber-tomatoes tossed at me for people thinking I have such an &quot;ugly&quot; MS profile, but it&#039;s one I designed myself and I like it. If you ask me, some of the profile designs here are just as bad if not worse than MS has. It&#039;s a person&#039;s opinion on how pretty something is, and believe me, I&#039;ve had messages from others saying just how cool my profile and blog are. I look at it like this: if you don&#039;t like it, don&#039;t bother to look at it. There are some beautiful profiles / blogs on MS, believe it or not. Yes, there are some ugly ones but those are few and far between.

I do wish all of you the best of luck however. Blessings!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read the article, checked out the site, thought about it and decided not to sign up.</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a member of so many sites now that I can barely keep up with them. I am on Facebook, MySpace and a lot more. I really don&#8217;t have time to sign up, post my information, create a blog, customize everything and start a new friends list here. I was on Live Journal for a while, but left it due to rude people and lack of time&#8230;plus, I just didn&#8217;t like it at all.</p>
<p>I know I&#8217;m going to get cyber-tomatoes tossed at me for people thinking I have such an &#8220;ugly&#8221; MS profile, but it&#8217;s one I designed myself and I like it. If you ask me, some of the profile designs here are just as bad if not worse than MS has. It&#8217;s a person&#8217;s opinion on how pretty something is, and believe me, I&#8217;ve had messages from others saying just how cool my profile and blog are. I look at it like this: if you don&#8217;t like it, don&#8217;t bother to look at it. There are some beautiful profiles / blogs on MS, believe it or not. Yes, there are some ugly ones but those are few and far between.</p>
<p>I do wish all of you the best of luck however. Blessings!</p>
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		By: Virb &#124; redsultana.com		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/virb-vs-myspace#comment-32472</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Virb &#124; redsultana.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] was browsing Mike Davidson&#8217;s blog and he mentioned a groovy new myspace type network online called [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] was browsing Mike Davidson&#8217;s blog and he mentioned a groovy new myspace type network online called [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Sean S		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/virb-vs-myspace#comment-14893</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m there. Now I&#039;m just planning my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0,70717-0.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;myspaceicide&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m there. Now I&#8217;m just planning my <a href="http://www.wired.com/news/columns/0,70717-0.html" rel="nofollow">myspaceicide</a>.</p>
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		By: Steve		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/virb-vs-myspace#comment-14894</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://virb.com/sjs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I have a page at virb, too&lt;/a&gt;—and I love it.  I never really got into the myspace thing because there were so many turn offs—from the ugly templates, the sparkling gifs, the need to go through 5 pages to get &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; done, and I could continue for hours.  All I ended up doing with myspace was approving friends when I got an email from myspace saying I had a request.

One of the great things about virb is that while the site allows flexibility in styling the user profiles—and opens the door for myspace like trash—you have the option to turn the styles off while browsing.  This is a great usability feature.

Great work to the virb team. I&#039;ve already killed more time between classes while at virb that I ever did with myspace. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://virb.com/sjs" rel="nofollow">I have a page at virb, too</a>—and I love it.  I never really got into the myspace thing because there were so many turn offs—from the ugly templates, the sparkling gifs, the need to go through 5 pages to get <i>anything</i> done, and I could continue for hours.  All I ended up doing with myspace was approving friends when I got an email from myspace saying I had a request.</p>
<p>One of the great things about virb is that while the site allows flexibility in styling the user profiles—and opens the door for myspace like trash—you have the option to turn the styles off while browsing.  This is a great usability feature.</p>
<p>Great work to the virb team. I&#8217;ve already killed more time between classes while at virb that I ever did with myspace. :)</p>
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		By: Adam Hobson		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/virb-vs-myspace#comment-14895</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam Hobson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow, they even make Google AdSense ads look good.

Though I think I may be social networked out.  I&#039;ve already deleted my myspace and living fine without a similar site.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, they even make Google AdSense ads look good.</p>
<p>Though I think I may be social networked out.  I&#8217;ve already deleted my myspace and living fine without a similar site.</p>
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		By: gb		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/virb-vs-myspace#comment-14896</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was looking at your re-did page the other day, thinking &quot;hey, I need to make my page look better&quot;... then I realised I have about 500 other things I should be doing before I take that on. But I&#039;ve damn near become a Virb evangelist... I&#039;ve talked it up some much to my friends that they all seem to think I work for Unborn. But hey, at least I&#039;ve sent a few of them over so far.

Sadly, though, it seems like the certain friends of mine are only reachable via myspace... and it&#039;s always those types that I impossible to get to move. And so now I find myself checking my old myspace &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; my virb accounts. Almost as much of a time waste as twittering...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking at your re-did page the other day, thinking &#8220;hey, I need to make my page look better&#8221;&#8230; then I realised I have about 500 other things I should be doing before I take that on. But I&#8217;ve damn near become a Virb evangelist&#8230; I&#8217;ve talked it up some much to my friends that they all seem to think I work for Unborn. But hey, at least I&#8217;ve sent a few of them over so far.</p>
<p>Sadly, though, it seems like the certain friends of mine are only reachable via myspace&#8230; and it&#8217;s always those types that I impossible to get to move. And so now I find myself checking my old myspace <em>and</em> my virb accounts. Almost as much of a time waste as twittering&#8230;</p>
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		By: Nathan Henderson		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/virb-vs-myspace#comment-14897</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nathan Henderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Any particular reason you haven&#039;t looked at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.facebook.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Facebook&lt;/a&gt;?

Virb does look feature-complete, and stylish to boot, but Facebook has a very large community, initially from HiEd, but now open to the world.  Plus, it&#039;s not hideously ugly like MySpace.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any particular reason you haven&#8217;t looked at <a href="http://www.facebook.com" rel="nofollow">Facebook</a>?</p>
<p>Virb does look feature-complete, and stylish to boot, but Facebook has a very large community, initially from HiEd, but now open to the world.  Plus, it&#8217;s not hideously ugly like MySpace.</p>
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		By: Mike D.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/virb-vs-myspace#comment-14898</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[gb: Yeah, I did mine up in about 30 minutes after getting back home from a Friday night.

Nathan: I like Facebook, but I just don&#039;t use it. It does seem more useful for serious social networking, but serious social networking isn&#039;t really something I do a lot.  It&#039;s just cool to have a space (outside your own site) which you can customize to the extent Virb lets you without putting up with the crap MySpace imposes on you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gb: Yeah, I did mine up in about 30 minutes after getting back home from a Friday night.</p>
<p>Nathan: I like Facebook, but I just don&#8217;t use it. It does seem more useful for serious social networking, but serious social networking isn&#8217;t really something I do a lot.  It&#8217;s just cool to have a space (outside your own site) which you can customize to the extent Virb lets you without putting up with the crap MySpace imposes on you.</p>
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		By: Tyson Rosage		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/virb-vs-myspace#comment-14899</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tyson Rosage]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey Mike. Thank you so much for the kind words on VIRBÂ°. We&#039;re all thrilled you and everyone else are enjoying it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mike. Thank you so much for the kind words on VIRBÂ°. We&#8217;re all thrilled you and everyone else are enjoying it.</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/virb-vs-myspace#comment-14900</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Funny, a place for you neat freaks to gather and drink expensive coffee.  I&#039;ll check it out anyway ... who knows.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, a place for you neat freaks to gather and drink expensive coffee.  I&#8217;ll check it out anyway &#8230; who knows.</p>
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		By: Ian Lloyd		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/virb-vs-myspace#comment-14901</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Lloyd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Y&#039;know, you&#039;re dead right - it looks nice, seems to have all the right features but I&#039;m still a bit &#039;meh&#039; about it. I know I&#039;m not the only one who&#039;s fed up continually having to add my profile (and then my friends) to another social network. For me it&#039;s Flickr, Twitter (I resisted that for a while), LinkedIn for the professional side of things ... and that&#039;s pretty much it. I tried Orkut when everyone else did, and dumped it like everyone else did (apart from the Brazilians, of course, who took over that network big style). I&#039;ve never had or wanted a MySpace account. I tried Trig.com too which also looked good but I just didn&#039;t need another site like this to maintain/take part in.

I wish Virb good luck - but equally I wish good luck for any such site that manages to unseat MySpace and replace it with something tasteful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;know, you&#8217;re dead right &#8211; it looks nice, seems to have all the right features but I&#8217;m still a bit &#8216;meh&#8217; about it. I know I&#8217;m not the only one who&#8217;s fed up continually having to add my profile (and then my friends) to another social network. For me it&#8217;s Flickr, Twitter (I resisted that for a while), LinkedIn for the professional side of things &#8230; and that&#8217;s pretty much it. I tried Orkut when everyone else did, and dumped it like everyone else did (apart from the Brazilians, of course, who took over that network big style). I&#8217;ve never had or wanted a MySpace account. I tried Trig.com too which also looked good but I just didn&#8217;t need another site like this to maintain/take part in.</p>
<p>I wish Virb good luck &#8211; but equally I wish good luck for any such site that manages to unseat MySpace and replace it with something tasteful.</p>
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		By: Joshua Porter		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/virb-vs-myspace#comment-14903</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joshua Porter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m fascinated by your post...asking folks to fight MySpace on account of aesthetic sensibility. From what I&#039;ve uncovered talking to people who are passionate about MySpace, the value they get from the site has little to do with the way it looks. In fact, some appreciate that they can make it look like anything they want. I call this the MySpace Problem...because it&#039;s way too easy to judge the site on the way it looks without asking what value people are really getting from it. I think we all suffer from this from time to time. It&#039;s simply human nature to judge by visual impression when other factors aren&#039;t as close to the surface. Even so, as a non-MySpacer myself, the fact that anybody can get value from it is still a little surprising.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m fascinated by your post&#8230;asking folks to fight MySpace on account of aesthetic sensibility. From what I&#8217;ve uncovered talking to people who are passionate about MySpace, the value they get from the site has little to do with the way it looks. In fact, some appreciate that they can make it look like anything they want. I call this the MySpace Problem&#8230;because it&#8217;s way too easy to judge the site on the way it looks without asking what value people are really getting from it. I think we all suffer from this from time to time. It&#8217;s simply human nature to judge by visual impression when other factors aren&#8217;t as close to the surface. Even so, as a non-MySpacer myself, the fact that anybody can get value from it is still a little surprising.</p>
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		By: Max		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/virb-vs-myspace#comment-14904</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[* Disclaimer: I think social networking is for spastic kids under the age of 14 and for social rejects over the age of 14.

I feel your pain when it comes to poorly designed sites, Mike.  If only you could design every site, we&#039;d all be in better hands.  But all of the adolecent, pimple-faced, kids who use MySpace probably love sparkly backgrounds and horrid layouts.  They want their &quot;space&quot; to mirror their bedrooms.  This is an audience who puts stickers on their laptops and draws on their shoes with ink.  &quot;Like, cool!&quot;

As long as we&#039;re talking about sites with cluttered designs, we might as well bring up Amazon and eBay.  They look like they were designed in 1992 using Notepad.  Classic examples of &quot;band-aid&quot; design.  &quot;Hey, let&#039;s sell books!  Just slap another tab in the header.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* Disclaimer: I think social networking is for spastic kids under the age of 14 and for social rejects over the age of 14.</p>
<p>I feel your pain when it comes to poorly designed sites, Mike.  If only you could design every site, we&#8217;d all be in better hands.  But all of the adolecent, pimple-faced, kids who use MySpace probably love sparkly backgrounds and horrid layouts.  They want their &#8220;space&#8221; to mirror their bedrooms.  This is an audience who puts stickers on their laptops and draws on their shoes with ink.  &#8220;Like, cool!&#8221;</p>
<p>As long as we&#8217;re talking about sites with cluttered designs, we might as well bring up Amazon and eBay.  They look like they were designed in 1992 using Notepad.  Classic examples of &#8220;band-aid&#8221; design.  &#8220;Hey, let&#8217;s sell books!  Just slap another tab in the header.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Rafael		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/virb-vs-myspace#comment-14905</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rafael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I recently came across &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uber.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Uber&lt;/a&gt; as the non-crap alternative to MySpace (it&#039;s also only a couple of weeks old), but I have to say, it&#039;s not as cool as Virb. They&#039;ve really got to work with a decent, modern designer who knows something about web standards with Virb, which is refreshing to see.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently came across <a href="http://www.uber.com" rel="nofollow">Uber</a> as the non-crap alternative to MySpace (it&#8217;s also only a couple of weeks old), but I have to say, it&#8217;s not as cool as Virb. They&#8217;ve really got to work with a decent, modern designer who knows something about web standards with Virb, which is refreshing to see.</p>
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