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		By: CreateSomething &#187; Nothing is quite so cool as getting mentioned on the Daily Show		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/hacking-a-more-tasteful-john-mccain#comment-33172</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CreateSomething &#187; Nothing is quite so cool as getting mentioned on the Daily Show]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] I want to be this cool. (backstory on said coolness over here)   Filed under: Found Links, News &#8212; 7:45 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I want to be this cool. (backstory on said coolness over here)   Filed under: Found Links, News &#8212; 7:45 [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Steve		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/hacking-a-more-tasteful-john-mccain#comment-30576</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I want to address very narrowly the idea of referring to hotlinking as &quot;theft&quot; as Emily does. 

First, let me agree that hotlinking without permission is bad manners, people shouldn&#039;t do it, and it places a burden on the &quot;hosting&quot; site which may be anywhere from trivial to substantial. And, though I didn&#039;t see Mike&#039;s innovative response, I think it was probably well within the parameters of an appropriate response to the situation. 

That being said, people who call it &quot;theft&quot; are just wrong. The philosophy of hypertext, from it&#039;s earliest usable implimentation, has been one of free linkability. (Tes it&#039;s true that hypertext conceptual pioneer Ted Nelson projected that all or most linked content would be transparently charged for. However that model did not prevail.) My belief is that when you put content on a publically accessible web server there is implicit permission to link freely. There are probably some lawyers who could generate counter-arguements, but &quot;that&#039;s my story and I&#039;m stickin&#039; to it&quot;. People whose images are hotlinked have a variety of recourses, from requests to threats of retaliation, to removing the image, to clever sabotage a la Mike). What they do not have the right to do is complain that their content was &quot;stolen&quot; (And, no Mike, I don&#039;t mean you. But that attitude is out there and it is one of my pet peeves.)

Now the one counterargument that might hold weight would be to try to class hotlinking under the laws relating to DOS attacks. But for that, I think you would have to show both actual DOS-level damage and intent. 

Basically hotlinking is bad manners, maybe a little like spitting on somebody&#039;s car in the parking lot. But it&#039;s not theft. 

-Steve]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to address very narrowly the idea of referring to hotlinking as &#8220;theft&#8221; as Emily does. </p>
<p>First, let me agree that hotlinking without permission is bad manners, people shouldn&#8217;t do it, and it places a burden on the &#8220;hosting&#8221; site which may be anywhere from trivial to substantial. And, though I didn&#8217;t see Mike&#8217;s innovative response, I think it was probably well within the parameters of an appropriate response to the situation. </p>
<p>That being said, people who call it &#8220;theft&#8221; are just wrong. The philosophy of hypertext, from it&#8217;s earliest usable implimentation, has been one of free linkability. (Tes it&#8217;s true that hypertext conceptual pioneer Ted Nelson projected that all or most linked content would be transparently charged for. However that model did not prevail.) My belief is that when you put content on a publically accessible web server there is implicit permission to link freely. There are probably some lawyers who could generate counter-arguements, but &#8220;that&#8217;s my story and I&#8217;m stickin&#8217; to it&#8221;. People whose images are hotlinked have a variety of recourses, from requests to threats of retaliation, to removing the image, to clever sabotage a la Mike). What they do not have the right to do is complain that their content was &#8220;stolen&#8221; (And, no Mike, I don&#8217;t mean you. But that attitude is out there and it is one of my pet peeves.)</p>
<p>Now the one counterargument that might hold weight would be to try to class hotlinking under the laws relating to DOS attacks. But for that, I think you would have to show both actual DOS-level damage and intent. </p>
<p>Basically hotlinking is bad manners, maybe a little like spitting on somebody&#8217;s car in the parking lot. But it&#8217;s not theft. </p>
<p>-Steve</p>
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		By: Chris Griffin		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/hacking-a-more-tasteful-john-mccain#comment-14978</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Griffin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That. is. Awesome.

You are my hero.]]></description>
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<p>You are my hero.</p>
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		By: Noah Stokes		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/hacking-a-more-tasteful-john-mccain#comment-14979</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Noah Stokes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brilliant Mike!]]></description>
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		By: Dan A		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/hacking-a-more-tasteful-john-mccain#comment-14980</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan A]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very nicely done, and tasteful as well. I wonder if this is going to get national mention? I fully expect to see this on television news shortly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nicely done, and tasteful as well. I wonder if this is going to get national mention? I fully expect to see this on television news shortly.</p>
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		By: PB		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/hacking-a-more-tasteful-john-mccain#comment-14981</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We welcome our new Internet overlords.]]></description>
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		By: Kevin Hall		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/hacking-a-more-tasteful-john-mccain#comment-14982</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike,
That is hilarious, I&#039;ve already emailed my family and friends and everyone has been laughing their arses off. It is indeed tasteful rather than mean spirited and we can always hope he&#039;ll just decide to keep his new opinion on the matter. After all, changing your mind once is fine, but changing it back is just flip flopping on the tough issues.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,<br />
That is hilarious, I&#8217;ve already emailed my family and friends and everyone has been laughing their arses off. It is indeed tasteful rather than mean spirited and we can always hope he&#8217;ll just decide to keep his new opinion on the matter. After all, changing your mind once is fine, but changing it back is just flip flopping on the tough issues.</p>
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		By: Phil Wilks		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/hacking-a-more-tasteful-john-mccain#comment-14983</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil Wilks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brilliant! I notice that they&#039;ve changed it so that the image doesn&#039;t appear anymore.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant! I notice that they&#8217;ve changed it so that the image doesn&#8217;t appear anymore.</p>
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		By: Rob Goodlatte		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/hacking-a-more-tasteful-john-mccain#comment-14984</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Goodlatte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Man that takes some balls.  Best hotlink prank I&#039;ve ever seen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man that takes some balls.  Best hotlink prank I&#8217;ve ever seen.</p>
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		By: Rob		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/hacking-a-more-tasteful-john-mccain#comment-14985</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Very professional Mike.

what are you, 5? grow up.

&lt;em&gt;(Editor&#039;s Note: 32, actually.  And growing up more every year! Thanks!)&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very professional Mike.</p>
<p>what are you, 5? grow up.</p>
<p><em>(Editor&#8217;s Note: 32, actually.  And growing up more every year! Thanks!)</em></p>
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		By: Martin Ringlein		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/hacking-a-more-tasteful-john-mccain#comment-14986</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Ringlein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike, AWESOME WORK!!! You are the man -- you&#039;ve got a big set on you, I&#039;ll give you that!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, AWESOME WORK!!! You are the man &#8212; you&#8217;ve got a big set on you, I&#8217;ll give you that!</p>
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		By: Emily		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/hacking-a-more-tasteful-john-mccain#comment-14987</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emily]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think that my favorite part was that if McCain&#039;s people had not acted so unprofessionally, this wouldn&#039;t have even been POSSIBLE.

Well done. I hope your lawyers are, um, all a-ready.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that my favorite part was that if McCain&#8217;s people had not acted so unprofessionally, this wouldn&#8217;t have even been POSSIBLE.</p>
<p>Well done. I hope your lawyers are, um, all a-ready.</p>
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		By: Tigerblade		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/hacking-a-more-tasteful-john-mccain#comment-14988</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tigerblade]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think Mike needs to worry about lawyers at all... there&#039;s nothing McCain can do.  His page wasn&#039;t really *defaced* and it&#039;s their own fault anyway.  Whoever set up the profile knew what they were doing, and chose to ignore the simple rules set out by Mike.

What could they possibly come after him with?  Defamation?  Not likely.  It&#039;s their own fault that this was made possible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Mike needs to worry about lawyers at all&#8230; there&#8217;s nothing McCain can do.  His page wasn&#8217;t really *defaced* and it&#8217;s their own fault anyway.  Whoever set up the profile knew what they were doing, and chose to ignore the simple rules set out by Mike.</p>
<p>What could they possibly come after him with?  Defamation?  Not likely.  It&#8217;s their own fault that this was made possible.</p>
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		By: chris s.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/hacking-a-more-tasteful-john-mccain#comment-14989</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chris s.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike, I normally agree with you and the prank is not without a particular sort of ingenuity, but it is malicious to try to harm someone because somebody who works for them is incompetent. Your desire for attention and laughs has exceeded the bounds of taste. Even if you do not respect McCain&#039;s views, as a public figure the proper course would have been to notify his campaign before trying to knowingly and publicly embarrass him for something out of his assumed control, like hotlinking your images.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, I normally agree with you and the prank is not without a particular sort of ingenuity, but it is malicious to try to harm someone because somebody who works for them is incompetent. Your desire for attention and laughs has exceeded the bounds of taste. Even if you do not respect McCain&#8217;s views, as a public figure the proper course would have been to notify his campaign before trying to knowingly and publicly embarrass him for something out of his assumed control, like hotlinking your images.</p>
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		By: Mike D.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2007/03/hacking-a-more-tasteful-john-mccain#comment-14990</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[chris s: The intent here is not to hurt John McCain and I guarantee that with 20 months to go before the election, he won&#039;t have lost a single vote on account of this. Public figures need to be responsible for the online communities they choose to &quot;participate&quot; in. Know the rules, or risk unintended things happening. Believe me, if I wanted to cause harm, there&#039;s a little thing called Goatse that could have come in very handy. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chris s: The intent here is not to hurt John McCain and I guarantee that with 20 months to go before the election, he won&#8217;t have lost a single vote on account of this. Public figures need to be responsible for the online communities they choose to &#8220;participate&#8221; in. Know the rules, or risk unintended things happening. Believe me, if I wanted to cause harm, there&#8217;s a little thing called Goatse that could have come in very handy. :)</p>
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