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		By: sIFR - Scalable Inman Flash Replacement : ofigura		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/06/sifr-3-alpha#comment-33181</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sIFR - Scalable Inman Flash Replacement : ofigura]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] (26.08.06): Ã“timas notÃ­cias, o Mike Davidson divulgou o lanÃ§amento do sIFR 3.0 alpha, uma das novidades Ã© a possibilidade de se utilizar filtros do Flash 8. Se vocÃª quiser testar, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] (26.08.06): Ã“timas notÃ­cias, o Mike Davidson divulgou o lanÃ§amento do sIFR 3.0 alpha, uma das novidades Ã© a possibilidade de se utilizar filtros do Flash 8. Se vocÃª quiser testar, [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Erick Souza &#187; Blog Archive &#187; sIFR - Scalable Inman Flash Replacement		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/06/sifr-3-alpha#comment-31341</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erick Souza &#187; Blog Archive &#187; sIFR - Scalable Inman Flash Replacement]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] (26.08.06): Ã“timas notÃ­cias, o Mike Davidson divulgou o lanÃ§amento do sIFR 3.0 alpha, uma das novidades Ã© a possibilidade de se utilizar filtros do Flash 8. Se vocÃª quiser testar, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] (26.08.06): Ã“timas notÃ­cias, o Mike Davidson divulgou o lanÃ§amento do sIFR 3.0 alpha, uma das novidades Ã© a possibilidade de se utilizar filtros do Flash 8. Se vocÃª quiser testar, [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Kevin Cannon		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/06/sifr-3-alpha#comment-12671</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Cannon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Have you thought about implemeting siFR (or a varient of it) with SVG with Flash fallback?

Firefox and Opera now both render SVG natively(with Safari following soon) and so can Flash with libraries. sIFR currently requires the Flash authoring tool, where as if you used SVG it would be supporting standards, and allow you to use it, even if you don&#039;t have a copy of Flash.

It&#039;s probably a bit of a pipe dream because the difficulty level is significantly higher, but for SVG enabled browsers, the experience would be much better.

Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you thought about implemeting siFR (or a varient of it) with SVG with Flash fallback?</p>
<p>Firefox and Opera now both render SVG natively(with Safari following soon) and so can Flash with libraries. sIFR currently requires the Flash authoring tool, where as if you used SVG it would be supporting standards, and allow you to use it, even if you don&#8217;t have a copy of Flash.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably a bit of a pipe dream because the difficulty level is significantly higher, but for SVG enabled browsers, the experience would be much better.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		By: Giordano		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/06/sifr-3-alpha#comment-12683</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Giordano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi,
i&#039;ve to give you some feedbacks, if you don&#039;t already know .. i&#039;ve  some problem with last NIGHTLIES. They don&#039;t work with IE 6.0 (WIN). 
Thank you

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
i&#8217;ve to give you some feedbacks, if you don&#8217;t already know .. i&#8217;ve  some problem with last NIGHTLIES. They don&#8217;t work with IE 6.0 (WIN).<br />
Thank you</p>
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		By: Jeff L		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/06/sifr-3-alpha#comment-12682</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jester,

Thanks - a bit overwhelming as I&#039;ve never used any of those tools or enviornments before, but it definitely &lt;a href=&quot;http://aralbalkan.com/index.php?p=377&amp;more=1&amp;c=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;looks like it can be done&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jester,</p>
<p>Thanks &#8211; a bit overwhelming as I&#8217;ve never used any of those tools or enviornments before, but it definitely <a href="http://aralbalkan.com/index.php?p=377&#038;more=1&#038;c=1" rel="nofollow">looks like it can be done</a>.</p>
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		By: Wil Alambre		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/06/sifr-3-alpha#comment-12681</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wil Alambre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Looking forward to sIFR 3!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward to sIFR 3!</p>
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		By: JesterXL		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/06/sifr-3-alpha#comment-12680</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JesterXL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jeff, you don&#039;t need all of these components, but hopefully this&#039;ll give you a head start.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.osflash.org/fames_tutorials&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FAMES Tutorials&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, you don&#8217;t need all of these components, but hopefully this&#8217;ll give you a head start.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.osflash.org/fames_tutorials" rel="nofollow">FAMES Tutorials</a></p>
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		By: Jeff L		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/06/sifr-3-alpha#comment-12679</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike,

That&#039;s awesome - I actually just used sIFR for the first time the other day and was very impressed - I can&#039;t believe I took so long to give it a shot.  I think I was a bit wary of the Flash.  

Does anyone know of any good tutorials that show how to use sIFR without the actual Flash application?  That&#039;s the biggest setback at the moment that I see - I can put in a PO for it at work if I can convince them of the benefits of sIFR, but Flash isn&#039;t cheap to purchase personally either....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s awesome &#8211; I actually just used sIFR for the first time the other day and was very impressed &#8211; I can&#8217;t believe I took so long to give it a shot.  I think I was a bit wary of the Flash.  </p>
<p>Does anyone know of any good tutorials that show how to use sIFR without the actual Flash application?  That&#8217;s the biggest setback at the moment that I see &#8211; I can put in a PO for it at work if I can convince them of the benefits of sIFR, but Flash isn&#8217;t cheap to purchase personally either&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Guy Tucker		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/06/sifr-3-alpha#comment-12678</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guy Tucker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sounds good, will it support multiple colours &amp; links in one heading?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds good, will it support multiple colours &#038; links in one heading?</p>
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		By: Kevin Cannon		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/06/sifr-3-alpha#comment-12677</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Cannon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ahh, my bad, looks like I was wrong on this one. I assumed SVG was implemented more &#039;inline&#039; with the webpage. Given it&#039;s not there&#039;s no real advantage over just using Flash. Thanks for the reply.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, my bad, looks like I was wrong on this one. I assumed SVG was implemented more &#8216;inline&#8217; with the webpage. Given it&#8217;s not there&#8217;s no real advantage over just using Flash. Thanks for the reply.</p>
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		By: Mike D.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/06/sifr-3-alpha#comment-12676</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the clarification Kevin.  I could very well be wrong but I was under the impression that SVG text was treated as an &quot;object&quot;, pretty much exactly the same way Flash text is.  I went to an SVG example page &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/samples/text.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and that appears to be the case.  Text is selectable, but just like sIFR text, it&#039;s only selectable as part of an object.  I could very well be wrong on this though as I don&#039;t follow SVG development very closely.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarification Kevin.  I could very well be wrong but I was under the impression that SVG text was treated as an &#8220;object&#8221;, pretty much exactly the same way Flash text is.  I went to an SVG example page <a href="http://www.carto.net/papers/svg/samples/text.shtml" rel="nofollow">here</a> and that appears to be the case.  Text is selectable, but just like sIFR text, it&#8217;s only selectable as part of an object.  I could very well be wrong on this though as I don&#8217;t follow SVG development very closely.</p>
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		By: Kevin Cannon		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/06/sifr-3-alpha#comment-12675</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Cannon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike. 

sIFR is great, but there will always be some problems inherant to using a plugin, that you&#039;ve documented. Copy &amp; pasting chunks of text, will always be fiddly. SVG would work inline in the HTML as if it was just plaintext. Basically, using SVG would be one step closer to native font embedding.

I&#039;m not suggesting an SVG only solution. Merely a solution with SVG at it&#039;s base. Flash can read the SVG if the browser doesn&#039;t support it natively.

JesterXL - that is true allright about those apps.

Mark - I&#039;m not quite sure I understand you. SVG can handle font embedding. It&#039;s designed to be able to render fonts.


As I said, it probably is a pipe dream :o)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike. </p>
<p>sIFR is great, but there will always be some problems inherant to using a plugin, that you&#8217;ve documented. Copy &#038; pasting chunks of text, will always be fiddly. SVG would work inline in the HTML as if it was just plaintext. Basically, using SVG would be one step closer to native font embedding.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting an SVG only solution. Merely a solution with SVG at it&#8217;s base. Flash can read the SVG if the browser doesn&#8217;t support it natively.</p>
<p>JesterXL &#8211; that is true allright about those apps.</p>
<p>Mark &#8211; I&#8217;m not quite sure I understand you. SVG can handle font embedding. It&#8217;s designed to be able to render fonts.</p>
<p>As I said, it probably is a pipe dream :o)</p>
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		By: Mark Wubben		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/06/sifr-3-alpha#comment-12674</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Wubben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kevin, implementing in SVG would also meanrendering the font itself in SVG, which is pretty much impossible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin, implementing in SVG would also meanrendering the font itself in SVG, which is pretty much impossible.</p>
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		By: JesterXL		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/06/sifr-3-alpha#comment-12673</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JesterXL]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You don&#039;t need Flash.  Use &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mtasc.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MTASC&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://iterative.org/swfmill/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SWFMill&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a /&gt;MING, and/or &lt;a href=&quot;http://haxe.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hAxe&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t need Flash.  Use <a href="http://www.mtasc.org/" rel="nofollow">MTASC</a>, <a href="http://iterative.org/swfmill/" rel="nofollow">SWFMill</a>, <a></a>MING, and/or <a href="http://haxe.org/" rel="nofollow">hAxe</a>.</p>
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		By: Mike D.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/06/sifr-3-alpha#comment-12672</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kevin: I don&#039;t have anything against SVG, but why would the experience be much better?  Unrelated to that, I don&#039;t think I&#039;d ever implement anything that wasn&#039;t viewable in 90% of the world&#039;s browsers unfortunately.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin: I don&#8217;t have anything against SVG, but why would the experience be much better?  Unrelated to that, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d ever implement anything that wasn&#8217;t viewable in 90% of the world&#8217;s browsers unfortunately.</p>
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