Comments on: The Proof is in the People https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/01/the-proof-is-in-the-people A running commentary of occasionally interesting things — from Mike Davidson. Thu, 26 May 2016 06:34:34 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 By: Zeerus https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/01/the-proof-is-in-the-people#comment-9963 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-9963 I totally agree with everything that’s been said. Though I’m only 15 years old I desperately want to create something thatw ill permanently leave my mark on the web, but negative criticism always bugs me. I realize I have to take it anyway, but I can’t help wondering if everyone feels the same way, no matter how much positive backup I receive.

As web designers and developers we have to just keep on building, and improving on current technologies. There’s always going to be a new language to learn, program to master, site to build, it’s just a matter of having the drive to accomplish everything

]]> By: Arthur https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/01/the-proof-is-in-the-people#comment-9973 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-9973 Just think Mike, if you were sitll working at Disney – Steve would be your new boss.

]]> By: Hrush https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/01/the-proof-is-in-the-people#comment-9972 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-9972 Bradley,

Apple has *always* been a media darling.

Gil Amelio, Apple’s one time CEO, once asked a reporter why the press was so infatuated with Apple. The reporter told him that every time they ran an Apple story, they sold more newspapers, simple.

I would ask if it’s worth revisiting that old phrase – there’s no such as bad publicity?

Media darling carries too much of a positive connotation and posits too narrow a relationship between the media and startups.

If I had to try and rephrase Shel’s question, I would ask Can you name one company which achieved greatness without becoming the focus of media frenzy first?

]]> By: Jay https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/01/the-proof-is-in-the-people#comment-9971 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-9971 Greetings Mike. I stumbled upon your website, thought I would point something out. I have never been to Gather.com or Newsvine.com prior to this. When I went to newsvine I did not see an “About” page that tells me what the company/service is about. Perhaps you don’t intend to put it until beta testing is finished but I think it would be a good idea for those who stumble upon it like myself. I signed up anyways just to see. :)

]]> By: James https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/01/the-proof-is-in-the-people#comment-9970 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-9970 They have*

]]> By: James https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/01/the-proof-is-in-the-people#comment-9969 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-9969 They [gather.com] has a lot of work to do in terms of design. The color scheme is difficult for my eyes to process.

]]> By: Mike D. https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/01/the-proof-is-in-the-people#comment-9968 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-9968 Nine: We think it’s great that most people don’t put the revenue-generating aspect at the tops of their list, because frankly, if you’re looking to make a million dollars by posting an article a week, you’re going to be disappointed. Newsvine is first and foremost a place to read, write, and interact with the news. The only reason we offer revenue-sharing is that where users add value to Newsvine, we’d like to give some of that value back in return.

Also keep in mind that people who already maintain active blogs are but a small slice of who we expect to see on the site everyday. If you already maintain a blog, the utility in using the “writing” aspect of the Vine is obviously a bit lower, but not everyone fits into this category.

]]> By: Nine https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/01/the-proof-is-in-the-people#comment-9967 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-9967 I am a big fan of newsvine but I don’t understand the whole money aspect of it. Why would I want to write a post on newsvine itself instead of writting it on my own blogs and then seeding that link. I would drop the whole ad share revenue aspect of the site and focus on what it is that makes newsvine so great. Just my two cents but from talking to other newsvine users…they tend to agree.

]]> By: Marc Rullo https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/01/the-proof-is-in-the-people#comment-9966 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-9966 Success is of secondary consequence.

Survival is the name of the game at this point. If you put everything you have into the idea and execution and then release it into the market, it may have a fighting chance. You’ve done that.

Now, having a bunch of people feed, shelter and protect it is the next step in the game, and as one of many anonymous surrogates, I can tell you that you’re well on your way.

After that, arm and defend your baby, eat and sleep and enjoy the ride.

]]> By: Bradley https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/01/the-proof-is-in-the-people#comment-9965 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-9965 Shel:

Apple.

]]> By: James AkaXakA https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/01/the-proof-is-in-the-people#comment-9964 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-9964

“Almost every time a great idea is first presented, people tend to reject it.”

Well, if it makes you feel any better, the first time I tried Newsvine I didn’t think much of it either ;)

I still don’t think it’s for me but I can see the general appeal of it.

]]> By: Chad Edge https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/01/the-proof-is-in-the-people#comment-9953 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-9953 Mike, I seem to thank you often for your posts (and the links they contain), so let me do it once more: Thank you.

I keep a Basecamp project for OSNAP.net, and I’ve added several posts by you along with the links for my very small (we’re 3, and my fiancé is one of them) team. The news you reference, the future of the Interweb, etc. all prove to be valuable reading material for us.

I’m not saying we’re specifically modeling ourselves after the structure of Newsvine, far from it – it’s just the steps you’ve discussed and the attitude you have greatly match how we feel.

I hope that our venture is 1/10th the fun and 1/10th the excitement that Newsvine has been for you – as long as we’re 10x the profitability :)

]]> By: dave https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/01/the-proof-is-in-the-people#comment-9962 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-9962 Just like to point out that Newsvine will indeed succed possibly though you need to stop aiming the product and changes based around the views been given to you. Yes to some extent but you have stated you want this site to be the masses and in no way is the membership of newsvine for the masses yet. The views and opnions given are justified and i indeed love the site but for and newsvine to get your overall aim at a site for the masses where they click the green button as well as the blue E then you need to start broadaning the user range and getting the masses into the site… If you manage this then yes newsvine will still be great but it will also achieve the aims of the company and no matter how successful a company is to the outside it will never have the same feeling as realising you have reached your own goals….

]]> By: Shel Israel https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/01/the-proof-is-in-the-people#comment-9961 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-9961 But, can you name one company who achieved greatness without becoming a media darling? The press isn’t there when that great idea is first presented. They come in later, when companies go through the public scrutiny that filters out so many well-intended companies from that level of greatness.

]]> By: Mike D. https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2006/01/the-proof-is-in-the-people#comment-9960 Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-9960 Totally Paul. I agree.

I just wanted to make clear that our approach is neither to create a new category, nor join a “newish” category currently inhabited by early adopter and techie types. It’s to take a very old and enormously higher trafficked category (point and click mainstream news) and inject it with the new life that it so needs.

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