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		By: Peter		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/11/newsvine-next-steps#comment-9139</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geek speak: just like htttp is not a registered protocol.  ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geek speak: just like htttp is not a registered protocol.  ;)</p>
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		By: Joost van der Borg		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/11/newsvine-next-steps#comment-9140</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joost van der Borg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, you are getting me more and more interested in what you&#039;ve got. As long as it&#039;s usable, easy and pretty (news sites can be pretty, right?), I&#039;m in.. As soon as you get far down into  your beta-list.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, you are getting me more and more interested in what you&#8217;ve got. As long as it&#8217;s usable, easy and pretty (news sites can be pretty, right?), I&#8217;m in.. As soon as you get far down into  your beta-list.</p>
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		By: Bradley		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/11/newsvine-next-steps#comment-9141</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bradley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I personally could not believe that people thought up the shallow words, &quot;This is just news with comments.&quot; They are totally missing that you&#039;ve completely captured the rise of consumer journalism.

Remember in the feature film &lt;em&gt;Frequency&lt;/em&gt; where the main character tells his younger friend in the past to remember one word? What was the word? &quot;Yahoo.&quot;

Mike, when you get the Benz, you&#039;ll have to visit. Add me to the excited list. It&#039;s going to be great.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally could not believe that people thought up the shallow words, &#8220;This is just news with comments.&#8221; They are totally missing that you&#8217;ve completely captured the rise of consumer journalism.</p>
<p>Remember in the feature film <em>Frequency</em> where the main character tells his younger friend in the past to remember one word? What was the word? &#8220;Yahoo.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mike, when you get the Benz, you&#8217;ll have to visit. Add me to the excited list. It&#8217;s going to be great.</p>
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		By: Dave		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/11/newsvine-next-steps#comment-9142</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good to see you are enjoying yourself Mike et al - just make sure you work hard and don&#039;t go over the top!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see you are enjoying yourself Mike et al &#8211; just make sure you work hard and don&#8217;t go over the top!</p>
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		By: Scrivs		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/11/newsvine-next-steps#comment-9143</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scrivs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Give me a couple mil and I bet you I wouldn&#039;t be stressed out either and definitely would be having an assload of fun :-P.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give me a couple mil and I bet you I wouldn&#8217;t be stressed out either and definitely would be having an assload of fun :-P.</p>
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		By: Mark		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/11/newsvine-next-steps#comment-9144</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have to say, I&#039;m a little jealous about all the fun you seem to be having.

Hopefully post-launch we&#039;ll see more posts on the blog!

Good luck, can&#039;t wait to see the finished product...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say, I&#8217;m a little jealous about all the fun you seem to be having.</p>
<p>Hopefully post-launch we&#8217;ll see more posts on the blog!</p>
<p>Good luck, can&#8217;t wait to see the finished product&#8230;</p>
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		By: Vince		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/11/newsvine-next-steps#comment-9145</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vince]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re one ridiculously talented cat, Davidson; the enthusiasm for Newsvine is evident whenever you talk about it. Good for you, brother - and good luck on the new biz!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re one ridiculously talented cat, Davidson; the enthusiasm for Newsvine is evident whenever you talk about it. Good for you, brother &#8211; and good luck on the new biz!</p>
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		By: Brandon Cox		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/11/newsvine-next-steps#comment-9146</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brandon Cox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Swiss? like:

This phrase with font tag? (Didn&#039;t work in the preview.  Maybe the designer has the font and insisted (s)he see the site identically to the comp?)

Excellent points, Mike.

Some parity arguments I&#039;ve heard over the years....

1) Why would anyone use a wiki?  Britannica already owns that space.

2) Once Walmart goes online Amazon will be dead.

3) Who needs another mapping tool?  Mapquest won.

You indeed are in good company.

Congratulations - looking forward to using it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swiss? like:</p>
<p>This phrase with font tag? (Didn&#8217;t work in the preview.  Maybe the designer has the font and insisted (s)he see the site identically to the comp?)</p>
<p>Excellent points, Mike.</p>
<p>Some parity arguments I&#8217;ve heard over the years&#8230;.</p>
<p>1) Why would anyone use a wiki?  Britannica already owns that space.</p>
<p>2) Once Walmart goes online Amazon will be dead.</p>
<p>3) Who needs another mapping tool?  Mapquest won.</p>
<p>You indeed are in good company.</p>
<p>Congratulations &#8211; looking forward to using it.</p>
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		By: Abercrombie		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/11/newsvine-next-steps#comment-9147</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abercrombie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I know everyone&#039;s excited about seeing what&#039;s coming, but we all know that Newsvine is not what that great office complex is for ... where are all the pictures of the Newsvine barbeque&#039;s and parties?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know everyone&#8217;s excited about seeing what&#8217;s coming, but we all know that Newsvine is not what that great office complex is for &#8230; where are all the pictures of the Newsvine barbeque&#8217;s and parties?</p>
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		By: eston		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/11/newsvine-next-steps#comment-9148</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;ve raised a wonderful point here, and you&#039;ve also underscored the very reason why Newsvine is going to succeed: you&#039;re doing things the &lt;strong&gt;right way&lt;/strong&gt;. The thing that you&#039;ve realised is that you and whoever else is working on the project with you is that you (all) have a much better understanding of the design, development, and, most of all, the &lt;em&gt;culture&lt;/em&gt; behind the way a &quot;Web 2.0&quot; application works. (I know you don&#039;t want to call Newsvine a Web 2.0 app, but it fits my definition of the term.) 

Any random PHP-hobbyist schmuck can pick up a dusty HTML 3.2 book off of their friends and script their idea into something that works, but it&#039;s  a different talent altogether to actually &lt;em&gt;develop&lt;/em&gt; an idea into a usable, standards-compliant application that places just as much emphasis on the UX and social infrastructure of the system as it does the web application/design itself. If your opponents are using &#060;font&#062; tags and supposedly have been around for longer than you have with absolutely no press coverage, mainstream or independent, they&#039;re probably doing something horribly wrong.

In all honesty, most all web application ideas have been done in some form or another to where you will have &quot;competition&quot; - and Newsvine is certainly no different - but just because you&#039;re a newcomer and have this &quot;competition&quot; (which I have in quotes because it&#039;s more a similar-space application than it is true competition) doesn&#039;t mean that you can do the same thing better than they can. Newsvine &lt;em&gt;sounds&lt;/em&gt; like a perfect example of that. I&#039;d like to find out firsthand. :)

And &#060;!-- BEGIN UBER TABLE --&#062;? I chuckled. Good show.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve raised a wonderful point here, and you&#8217;ve also underscored the very reason why Newsvine is going to succeed: you&#8217;re doing things the <strong>right way</strong>. The thing that you&#8217;ve realised is that you and whoever else is working on the project with you is that you (all) have a much better understanding of the design, development, and, most of all, the <em>culture</em> behind the way a &#8220;Web 2.0&#8221; application works. (I know you don&#8217;t want to call Newsvine a Web 2.0 app, but it fits my definition of the term.) </p>
<p>Any random PHP-hobbyist schmuck can pick up a dusty HTML 3.2 book off of their friends and script their idea into something that works, but it&#8217;s  a different talent altogether to actually <em>develop</em> an idea into a usable, standards-compliant application that places just as much emphasis on the UX and social infrastructure of the system as it does the web application/design itself. If your opponents are using &lt;font&gt; tags and supposedly have been around for longer than you have with absolutely no press coverage, mainstream or independent, they&#8217;re probably doing something horribly wrong.</p>
<p>In all honesty, most all web application ideas have been done in some form or another to where you will have &#8220;competition&#8221; &#8211; and Newsvine is certainly no different &#8211; but just because you&#8217;re a newcomer and have this &#8220;competition&#8221; (which I have in quotes because it&#8217;s more a similar-space application than it is true competition) doesn&#8217;t mean that you can do the same thing better than they can. Newsvine <em>sounds</em> like a perfect example of that. I&#8217;d like to find out firsthand. :)</p>
<p>And &lt;!&#8211; BEGIN UBER TABLE &#8211;&gt;? I chuckled. Good show.</p>
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		By: Zeerus		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/11/newsvine-next-steps#comment-9149</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zeerus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This looks great Mike, I can&#039;t wait. As for the skepticism, don&#039;t pay any attention to it. Sure, sites with the same features Newsvine has have come out before, but not all combined together on one platform. You&#039;ll beat em all out, no doubt about it.

good luck]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks great Mike, I can&#8217;t wait. As for the skepticism, don&#8217;t pay any attention to it. Sure, sites with the same features Newsvine has have come out before, but not all combined together on one platform. You&#8217;ll beat em all out, no doubt about it.</p>
<p>good luck</p>
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		By: Elliot Swan		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/11/newsvine-next-steps#comment-9150</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elliot Swan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think your enthusiasm is rubbing off onto me and everybody else...This thing sounds better every time you talk about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your enthusiasm is rubbing off onto me and everybody else&#8230;This thing sounds better every time you talk about it.</p>
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		By: Evan		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/11/newsvine-next-steps#comment-9151</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re KILLING US! We wan&#039;t innnnnnn!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re KILLING US! We wan&#8217;t innnnnnn!</p>
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		By: Alex		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/11/newsvine-next-steps#comment-9152</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Really looking forward to this. Congrats on the early positive reaction and good luck on what looks like inevitable success!]]></description>
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		By: Leigh		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/11/newsvine-next-steps#comment-9153</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is completely off topic, but the CBS News article contains a typo that happens to be my all time pet peeve; &quot;accomodate&quot; is spelt with TWO m&#039;s. Illiteracy in journalism is a tragedy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is completely off topic, but the CBS News article contains a typo that happens to be my all time pet peeve; &#8220;accomodate&#8221; is spelt with TWO m&#8217;s. Illiteracy in journalism is a tragedy.</p>
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