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		By: Bayou		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/07/im-not-ignoring-you#comment-7153</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bayou]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have had the same problems with Safari, so I&#039;ve begun to use Firefox more and more. It has it&#039;s slow moments but at least it doesn&#039;t freeze up like Safari has been. Plus, I&#039;ve found with firefox that I have fewer compatibility issues viewing webpages and less trouble with forms.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had the same problems with Safari, so I&#8217;ve begun to use Firefox more and more. It has it&#8217;s slow moments but at least it doesn&#8217;t freeze up like Safari has been. Plus, I&#8217;ve found with firefox that I have fewer compatibility issues viewing webpages and less trouble with forms.</p>
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		By: Mike D.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/07/im-not-ignoring-you#comment-7144</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike: Great news on the Burton site. Can&#039;t wait to see it.

Kevin: Yeah, the problem was that I didn&#039;t have old messages set to go to that folder. I had them set to get deleted. Ugh.

Everyone: Thanks very much for the tips on Vonage. The feature set is definitely compelling enough for me to use it.  My main question is quality. If it&#039;s cell-phone quality, then it&#039;s a no-go. If it proves as reliable, crystal-clear, and delay-free as a land line, then I&#039;m all for it. From what I can tell, a lot of that seems to depend on how good your internet connection is. I&#039;m getting 7 megabit DSL installed so hopefully that will render quality a non-issue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: Great news on the Burton site. Can&#8217;t wait to see it.</p>
<p>Kevin: Yeah, the problem was that I didn&#8217;t have old messages set to go to that folder. I had them set to get deleted. Ugh.</p>
<p>Everyone: Thanks very much for the tips on Vonage. The feature set is definitely compelling enough for me to use it.  My main question is quality. If it&#8217;s cell-phone quality, then it&#8217;s a no-go. If it proves as reliable, crystal-clear, and delay-free as a land line, then I&#8217;m all for it. From what I can tell, a lot of that seems to depend on how good your internet connection is. I&#8217;m getting 7 megabit DSL installed so hopefully that will render quality a non-issue.</p>
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		By: Orlando Web Design Guy		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/07/im-not-ignoring-you#comment-7145</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Orlando Web Design Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike,

THINGS YOU NEEEEED TO KNOW ABOUT VONAGE!

I have used them for a few years.  For the mosty part I have been happy with their service, HOWEVER, they left me without a phone for almost a month!  I found out the hard way recently that they have THE WORST support that you will ever find.  

I feel horrible that I recommended their service to so many of my friends.  

If you plan on never having a problem, especially with bad hardware, then Vonage is great.  But for me support and a billing department that doesn&#039;t LIE is equally important.

I&#039;m currently looking into Packet8 and some other VOIP providers.

Collin]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>THINGS YOU NEEEEED TO KNOW ABOUT VONAGE!</p>
<p>I have used them for a few years.  For the mosty part I have been happy with their service, HOWEVER, they left me without a phone for almost a month!  I found out the hard way recently that they have THE WORST support that you will ever find.  </p>
<p>I feel horrible that I recommended their service to so many of my friends.  </p>
<p>If you plan on never having a problem, especially with bad hardware, then Vonage is great.  But for me support and a billing department that doesn&#8217;t LIE is equally important.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently looking into Packet8 and some other VOIP providers.</p>
<p>Collin</p>
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		By: Orlando Web Design Guy		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/07/im-not-ignoring-you#comment-7146</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Orlando Web Design Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Also -  The quality was the Cisco ATA Phone adaptors they used originally.  Now that I have a Linksys Vonage adaptor and router all in 1.  I notice the line quality is not always that great even though I exceed the broadband requirements.

For most outbound calls there is a little fuzzines in the sound that clears up in a few seconds then the quality is great both ways.

On a few inbound calls I will hear some weird sound and need to call the person back to clear it up.  They never hear it on their side.

I recommend you shop around a bit.  This is a young technology and is certainly worth it in LD savings but don&#039;t expect to never have a few glitches.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also &#8211;  The quality was the Cisco ATA Phone adaptors they used originally.  Now that I have a Linksys Vonage adaptor and router all in 1.  I notice the line quality is not always that great even though I exceed the broadband requirements.</p>
<p>For most outbound calls there is a little fuzzines in the sound that clears up in a few seconds then the quality is great both ways.</p>
<p>On a few inbound calls I will hear some weird sound and need to call the person back to clear it up.  They never hear it on their side.</p>
<p>I recommend you shop around a bit.  This is a young technology and is certainly worth it in LD savings but don&#8217;t expect to never have a few glitches.</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/07/im-not-ignoring-you#comment-7147</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike,

I signed up for vonage and ported over my 212 number and never looked back.  I have referred the service to some family members and the 2 free months service is definetley worth the referrals.  A lot of people on forums and even in your comments suggest customer service &quot;sucks&quot; but I have found that if you email them or call the response is slow but usually you can figure out the problem.

Quality has never been a factor except for once when 2 computers were on my wifi network downloading at the same time - I noticed some quality degradation, but the other person could not tell.  I have a cable connection with Time Warner cable and a family member has Cable with Road Runner - both provide crystal clear sound.

In my case they gave me a linksys VOIP box capable of connecting to my Linksys wifi box with no problems and even has capabilities to add another line (voice or fax)  I would check which hardware you will be sent as this may also be a factor in your decision.

Also - just so I dont sound selfish - you might as well signup for Vonage under SOMEONES affiliate link because its free for you and great for them.  (Let me know if you need help finding one;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>I signed up for vonage and ported over my 212 number and never looked back.  I have referred the service to some family members and the 2 free months service is definetley worth the referrals.  A lot of people on forums and even in your comments suggest customer service &#8220;sucks&#8221; but I have found that if you email them or call the response is slow but usually you can figure out the problem.</p>
<p>Quality has never been a factor except for once when 2 computers were on my wifi network downloading at the same time &#8211; I noticed some quality degradation, but the other person could not tell.  I have a cable connection with Time Warner cable and a family member has Cable with Road Runner &#8211; both provide crystal clear sound.</p>
<p>In my case they gave me a linksys VOIP box capable of connecting to my Linksys wifi box with no problems and even has capabilities to add another line (voice or fax)  I would check which hardware you will be sent as this may also be a factor in your decision.</p>
<p>Also &#8211; just so I dont sound selfish &#8211; you might as well signup for Vonage under SOMEONES affiliate link because its free for you and great for them.  (Let me know if you need help finding one;)</p>
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		By: gnome		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/07/im-not-ignoring-you#comment-7148</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gnome]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[yep. Safari crashes, 10.4.n generally is running ruffer than anything after 10.1 until now. bummer. Seems like Apple might be at the threshold of missing the point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep. Safari crashes, 10.4.n generally is running ruffer than anything after 10.1 until now. bummer. Seems like Apple might be at the threshold of missing the point.</p>
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		By: Eric Blaska		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/07/im-not-ignoring-you#comment-7149</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Blaska]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why do you use Safari instead of Firefox?  I was using Safari and stopped because it didn&#039; t have all the plug-ins that Firefox has, I&#039;m much happier with it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you use Safari instead of Firefox?  I was using Safari and stopped because it didn&#8217; t have all the plug-ins that Firefox has, I&#8217;m much happier with it.</p>
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		By: Kyle Haskins		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/07/im-not-ignoring-you#comment-7150</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle Haskins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Speaking of, is there a sIFR gallery somewhere? It would be great to see how people are using it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of, is there a sIFR gallery somewhere? It would be great to see how people are using it.</p>
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		By: Rick Martinez		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/07/im-not-ignoring-you#comment-7151</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Martinez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To Kyle:
You could always check out the sIFR documentation wiki where people like to post their sIFR enabled websites. If you&#039;re looking for pre-made sIFR fonts, you can check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sifrfonts.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sIFRFonts.com&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Kyle:<br />
You could always check out the sIFR documentation wiki where people like to post their sIFR enabled websites. If you&#8217;re looking for pre-made sIFR fonts, you can check out <a href="http://www.sifrfonts.com" rel="nofollow">sIFRFonts.com</a>.</p>
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		By: Orlando Web Design Guy		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/07/im-not-ignoring-you#comment-7152</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Orlando Web Design Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: Post 23

Eric,  True that they are slow.  I don&#039;t want to get into great detail but their support is more then slow.  Contacting them online will never get a response.  Maybe it did once but last month I never heard back after emailing 3 different departments several times.

When I did call them, they charged my card $99 without telling me about it!  My call got disconnected before a resolution was made so I had to wait another hour to get someone on the phone again.  I found out that it&#039;s a big game where you never know who you are going to get.  The best you could hope for is someone in the NJ main support center but they have hundreds of less then adequately trained Indian staffers that you often get sent to.  I was told lies by at least 3 different people who claimed to have spoken with superiors about the charge on my card being removed but I am sure that none of them ever did.  The billing department gave me trouble about getting my money back even after the defective hardware was sent out.. AND I was lied to about the new hardware going out next day air.  THEN I was lied to about getting full credit for the month for both of my phone lines.  (First there was no mention of it put on my account and then only 1 line was credited to my account)

They waited until the defective hardware was recieved, it went out ground and they didn&#039;t show it received in their records even after UPS showed it was signed for.  They waited 2 days then sent out the new hardware through the USPS!!

It was almost 3 full weeks of being without a phone.  I spoke with at least 15 different people, if not more.  During that time there was only 1 person in NJ who has been there long enough to know their systems.  And as nice as they guy was, he was the last one who told me that a full credit for the month would be added to my account.  I was charged 2 days later, for $25 and change.

I am using Vonage for now and the service is currently working fine.  I have lost all faith in their customer service and supprt though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Post 23</p>
<p>Eric,  True that they are slow.  I don&#8217;t want to get into great detail but their support is more then slow.  Contacting them online will never get a response.  Maybe it did once but last month I never heard back after emailing 3 different departments several times.</p>
<p>When I did call them, they charged my card $99 without telling me about it!  My call got disconnected before a resolution was made so I had to wait another hour to get someone on the phone again.  I found out that it&#8217;s a big game where you never know who you are going to get.  The best you could hope for is someone in the NJ main support center but they have hundreds of less then adequately trained Indian staffers that you often get sent to.  I was told lies by at least 3 different people who claimed to have spoken with superiors about the charge on my card being removed but I am sure that none of them ever did.  The billing department gave me trouble about getting my money back even after the defective hardware was sent out.. AND I was lied to about the new hardware going out next day air.  THEN I was lied to about getting full credit for the month for both of my phone lines.  (First there was no mention of it put on my account and then only 1 line was credited to my account)</p>
<p>They waited until the defective hardware was recieved, it went out ground and they didn&#8217;t show it received in their records even after UPS showed it was signed for.  They waited 2 days then sent out the new hardware through the USPS!!</p>
<p>It was almost 3 full weeks of being without a phone.  I spoke with at least 15 different people, if not more.  During that time there was only 1 person in NJ who has been there long enough to know their systems.  And as nice as they guy was, he was the last one who told me that a full credit for the month would be added to my account.  I was charged 2 days later, for $25 and change.</p>
<p>I am using Vonage for now and the service is currently working fine.  I have lost all faith in their customer service and supprt though.</p>
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		By: Scott		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/07/im-not-ignoring-you#comment-7160</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike,

(I like your work.) Was vectored to your site via Google when trying to resolve a multiple router issue with ... Vonage. 

So here&#039;s my two cents about Vonage. In general, the service is average (3 on a 1 to 5), better than Cellular, but not as good as dialup. I currently have 4 vonage lines on 3 different routers and am pushing the limits I think. The FAX service is pretty spotty and I frequently have to try mutiple times to get it to work - this is a known issue. 

If you just want to set up 1 or 2 business lines and you can put the Vonage router right behind your cable/dsl router, you should be fine. I&#039;d be sure you had avreliable uplink speed of 256K, more if you need to put files while talking. For the arrangement above I have 6mb down and 756 up. I never get the 6 (more like 2.5 - bastards) but usually get 800 up. 

You may want to check out Speakeasy.net. They are out of Seattle, have great quality and customer service, but don&#039;t support faxes ( ... probably because it doesn&#039;t work reliably) I am thinking of switching my service over to them (because of the multiple router issue).

Scott

PS - Love the picture of gasworks. Am living in San Diego now, but was born and raised in Seattle and miss it frequently.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>(I like your work.) Was vectored to your site via Google when trying to resolve a multiple router issue with &#8230; Vonage. </p>
<p>So here&#8217;s my two cents about Vonage. In general, the service is average (3 on a 1 to 5), better than Cellular, but not as good as dialup. I currently have 4 vonage lines on 3 different routers and am pushing the limits I think. The FAX service is pretty spotty and I frequently have to try mutiple times to get it to work &#8211; this is a known issue. </p>
<p>If you just want to set up 1 or 2 business lines and you can put the Vonage router right behind your cable/dsl router, you should be fine. I&#8217;d be sure you had avreliable uplink speed of 256K, more if you need to put files while talking. For the arrangement above I have 6mb down and 756 up. I never get the 6 (more like 2.5 &#8211; bastards) but usually get 800 up. </p>
<p>You may want to check out Speakeasy.net. They are out of Seattle, have great quality and customer service, but don&#8217;t support faxes ( &#8230; probably because it doesn&#8217;t work reliably) I am thinking of switching my service over to them (because of the multiple router issue).</p>
<p>Scott</p>
<p>PS &#8211; Love the picture of gasworks. Am living in San Diego now, but was born and raised in Seattle and miss it frequently.</p>
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		By: gmn17		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/07/im-not-ignoring-you#comment-7158</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think safari version 2 is fantastic and is far superior on the mac&#039;s latest iMac from version 1.2 I am a windows user but I check my pages a couple of doors down on that cool looking iMac all the time. first mac I actually liked. It has never crashed btw even though I am not very bright on a mac, go figure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think safari version 2 is fantastic and is far superior on the mac&#8217;s latest iMac from version 1.2 I am a windows user but I check my pages a couple of doors down on that cool looking iMac all the time. first mac I actually liked. It has never crashed btw even though I am not very bright on a mac, go figure.</p>
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		By: timr		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/07/im-not-ignoring-you#comment-7159</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We have Calltower and they are horrible. The internet goes down, then the phones go down. All they know how to say is: &quot;Have you rebooted your firewall? Have you rebooted your firewall?&quot; Every time, I tell them, I have servers not behind the firewall. It&#039;s been down most of the time for the last few days and they are clueless.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have Calltower and they are horrible. The internet goes down, then the phones go down. All they know how to say is: &#8220;Have you rebooted your firewall? Have you rebooted your firewall?&#8221; Every time, I tell them, I have servers not behind the firewall. It&#8217;s been down most of the time for the last few days and they are clueless.</p>
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		By: Michael Murphy		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/07/im-not-ignoring-you#comment-7157</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Murphy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve had amazing luck with Vonage over the last three years or so that I&#039;ve used them.  Their rates keep going down and the quality of their service keeps going up.  You can&#039;t beat that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had amazing luck with Vonage over the last three years or so that I&#8217;ve used them.  Their rates keep going down and the quality of their service keeps going up.  You can&#8217;t beat that.</p>
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		By: Chanel Rachel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chanel Rachel]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve never thought I would thing dialup can be sometimes good, but having had troubles with Vonage I had to change my mind.
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