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		By: Len Griffiths		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/06/nike-custom-shoes#comment-41599</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Len Griffiths]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nike is very backwards, incredibly, when it comes to ordering from Canada.  I placed an order with Nike 3 days ago- couldn&#039;t do this on line, because my credit card is in Canada!  Called Nike, who did a &quot;workaround&quot;.  I was told the order would be shipped to where I will be in the U.S. no problem.  I also ordered shoes from 2 other sites the same day- could not have been easier, and the shoes are already delivered.  But not so with Nike, which seems to be trying to imitate an East German company circa 1950.  Called today and was told many many times that it takes 3-5 business days to accept an order from Canada!! Can you imagine??  No idea as to whether the order will be shipped, or when.  Could have ordered an Ipod and taken delivery from China by now.  Nike cannot even place the order, before other huge companies, such as oddball.com, have completed the delivery.  Nike sells a lot of shoes in Canada, portrays itself as an international company without barriers, and the acts like this.  I cannot count the number of apologies I got in a 10 minute phone call, which produced no result.  Hey Nike, catch up, it&#039;s 2009, and JUST DO IT!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nike is very backwards, incredibly, when it comes to ordering from Canada.  I placed an order with Nike 3 days ago- couldn&#8217;t do this on line, because my credit card is in Canada!  Called Nike, who did a &#8220;workaround&#8221;.  I was told the order would be shipped to where I will be in the U.S. no problem.  I also ordered shoes from 2 other sites the same day- could not have been easier, and the shoes are already delivered.  But not so with Nike, which seems to be trying to imitate an East German company circa 1950.  Called today and was told many many times that it takes 3-5 business days to accept an order from Canada!! Can you imagine??  No idea as to whether the order will be shipped, or when.  Could have ordered an Ipod and taken delivery from China by now.  Nike cannot even place the order, before other huge companies, such as oddball.com, have completed the delivery.  Nike sells a lot of shoes in Canada, portrays itself as an international company without barriers, and the acts like this.  I cannot count the number of apologies I got in a 10 minute phone call, which produced no result.  Hey Nike, catch up, it&#8217;s 2009, and JUST DO IT!</p>
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		By: Su		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/06/nike-custom-shoes#comment-6713</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Su]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s probably just a really(&lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt;) ass-backwards way of controlling the flow of orders. If they do have a daily capacity, letting people continue ordering beyond it would theoretically eventually create an impossible backlog.
But if there really is a hard limit on what the database can hold, can you imagine the developer&#039;s reaction? &quot;You want me to do &lt;em&gt;what&lt;/em&gt;?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s probably just a really(<em>really</em>) ass-backwards way of controlling the flow of orders. If they do have a daily capacity, letting people continue ordering beyond it would theoretically eventually create an impossible backlog.<br />
But if there really is a hard limit on what the database can hold, can you imagine the developer&#8217;s reaction? &#8220;You want me to do <em>what</em>?&#8221;</p>
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		By: Jeff Croft		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/06/nike-custom-shoes#comment-6714</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Croft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s one of the most absurd things I&#039;ve ever heard of. Why would they not at least let you save the configuration for order another day, or place it in a queue to be &quot;ordered?&quot;

&lt;em&gt;(Editor&#039;s Note: They actually do let you save the design into a &quot;locker&quot; if you go through the process of setting up a nike.com account.  Still though!)&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s one of the most absurd things I&#8217;ve ever heard of. Why would they not at least let you save the configuration for order another day, or place it in a queue to be &#8220;ordered?&#8221;</p>
<p><em>(Editor&#8217;s Note: They actually do let you save the design into a &#8220;locker&#8221; if you go through the process of setting up a nike.com account.  Still though!)</em></p>
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		By: Mike D.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/06/nike-custom-shoes#comment-6715</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Su: Yeah, that&#039;s possible I suppose.  You&#039;d think they&#039;d just do a simple equation in that case though where they could take the number of outstanding orders, divide by capacity per day, and then tell you something like:

&quot;Due to the high volume of orders, your shoes will take approximately X weeks to arrive&quot;.

Anything is better than closing the door on me and telling me to come back the next day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Su: Yeah, that&#8217;s possible I suppose.  You&#8217;d think they&#8217;d just do a simple equation in that case though where they could take the number of outstanding orders, divide by capacity per day, and then tell you something like:</p>
<p>&#8220;Due to the high volume of orders, your shoes will take approximately X weeks to arrive&#8221;.</p>
<p>Anything is better than closing the door on me and telling me to come back the next day.</p>
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		By: Keith		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/06/nike-custom-shoes#comment-6716</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Keith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s crazy...and stupid.  I wonder how many sales they lose to that?  Why can&#039;t they just queue it??  Sounds like they didn&#039;t think it though.  Typical.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s crazy&#8230;and stupid.  I wonder how many sales they lose to that?  Why can&#8217;t they just queue it??  Sounds like they didn&#8217;t think it though.  Typical.</p>
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		By: Dave Simon		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/06/nike-custom-shoes#comment-6717</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Simon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Their sweatshops can only turn out a certain number of shoes every day, Mike. Give &#039;em a break. ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their sweatshops can only turn out a certain number of shoes every day, Mike. Give &#8217;em a break. ;)</p>
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		By: Phil Scott		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/06/nike-custom-shoes#comment-6718</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Back when I did some web development training, one of the sales people wanted me to head down to his church to give them some IT help to 1) see if we couldn&#039;t impress them and get some business and 2) get me to join their church.  Needless to say, I wasn&#039;t going.  Now, this was one of those beasts of a church, so large most people in town call it Six Flags over Jesus.  So they have a fairly large IT staff with their own web servers and everything.

So the problem they were having was with their order taking system for their easter pagent.  It seemed that the application would only be up for maybe two hours a day, and the rest of the day they had an error message saying that they had taken all the orders they could for that day.  

So my sales guy heads down there, by himself, to check out the operation.  So he asks about the order taking system that&#039;s having a problem, and for some reason they show him the machine.  Well, normally looking at a machine won&#039;t tell you whats wrong, but in this case we had something so stupid even our sales people could troubleshoot:  They had the order system sending orders directly to a printer.  No database, no xml, not even a csv file.  Just print the order out, and someone gathered the orders up and processed them by hand.  And once the printer ran out of paper, they program some how gracefully failed and said &quot;sorry, we&#039;ve taken all the orders we can for now.&quot;

Amazing.  So maybe that&#039;s what has happened at Nike]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back when I did some web development training, one of the sales people wanted me to head down to his church to give them some IT help to 1) see if we couldn&#8217;t impress them and get some business and 2) get me to join their church.  Needless to say, I wasn&#8217;t going.  Now, this was one of those beasts of a church, so large most people in town call it Six Flags over Jesus.  So they have a fairly large IT staff with their own web servers and everything.</p>
<p>So the problem they were having was with their order taking system for their easter pagent.  It seemed that the application would only be up for maybe two hours a day, and the rest of the day they had an error message saying that they had taken all the orders they could for that day.  </p>
<p>So my sales guy heads down there, by himself, to check out the operation.  So he asks about the order taking system that&#8217;s having a problem, and for some reason they show him the machine.  Well, normally looking at a machine won&#8217;t tell you whats wrong, but in this case we had something so stupid even our sales people could troubleshoot:  They had the order system sending orders directly to a printer.  No database, no xml, not even a csv file.  Just print the order out, and someone gathered the orders up and processed them by hand.  And once the printer ran out of paper, they program some how gracefully failed and said &#8220;sorry, we&#8217;ve taken all the orders we can for now.&#8221;</p>
<p>Amazing.  So maybe that&#8217;s what has happened at Nike</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/06/nike-custom-shoes#comment-6719</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike, 

May I suggest you are making a mistake.  Order a pair of New Balance shoes.  They come in widths, aren&#039;t nearly as expensive (still a good price tag, don&#039;t get me wrong) and if you do it right, you will go run on trails and get em all muddy and stuff anyway.  I have not seen the New Balance store on-line, but I suggest to you the way to buy running shoes is this:
Find the store the real runners go to in your town ... it is not a big box store ... they probably have a treadmill or will examine your existing shoes to see how they wear.

Have them figure out what kind of runner you are ... do you pronate, supinate, or are you a stable runner.  They will get you the right tool for the job you are proposing, running.

What you are doing is the equivalent of going to the computer store and buying a computer because it looks good even though it might turn out to be a windows based machine when you are a Mac guy.  You need to try a shoe on to get the right one.  Even the same size often feels different if you try two pairs!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, </p>
<p>May I suggest you are making a mistake.  Order a pair of New Balance shoes.  They come in widths, aren&#8217;t nearly as expensive (still a good price tag, don&#8217;t get me wrong) and if you do it right, you will go run on trails and get em all muddy and stuff anyway.  I have not seen the New Balance store on-line, but I suggest to you the way to buy running shoes is this:<br />
Find the store the real runners go to in your town &#8230; it is not a big box store &#8230; they probably have a treadmill or will examine your existing shoes to see how they wear.</p>
<p>Have them figure out what kind of runner you are &#8230; do you pronate, supinate, or are you a stable runner.  They will get you the right tool for the job you are proposing, running.</p>
<p>What you are doing is the equivalent of going to the computer store and buying a computer because it looks good even though it might turn out to be a windows based machine when you are a Mac guy.  You need to try a shoe on to get the right one.  Even the same size often feels different if you try two pairs!</p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/06/nike-custom-shoes#comment-6720</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Error messages like these suck.

When I code a PHP app I have a file that defines errors so you can use &quot;error_45&quot; for example. That wat if something does go wrong the user knows what and can then tell you about it.

And why would they let you make a show you can&#039;t buy? They should have a big message in the corner saying &quot;Design Coming Soon&quot; or something.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Error messages like these suck.</p>
<p>When I code a PHP app I have a file that defines errors so you can use &#8220;error_45&#8221; for example. That wat if something does go wrong the user knows what and can then tell you about it.</p>
<p>And why would they let you make a show you can&#8217;t buy? They should have a big message in the corner saying &#8220;Design Coming Soon&#8221; or something.</p>
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		By: ro		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/06/nike-custom-shoes#comment-6721</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You guys are too busy counting the pine needles to see the forest.

&quot;Why wouldn&#039;t you just put my order in queue and manufacture it as soon as you can find the requisite child-laborers to build it?&quot;

You aren&#039;t just condoning the use of sweat shops through your purchase of a nike product, but you are taking a sarcastic swipe at the practice as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are too busy counting the pine needles to see the forest.</p>
<p>&#8220;Why wouldn&#8217;t you just put my order in queue and manufacture it as soon as you can find the requisite child-laborers to build it?&#8221;</p>
<p>You aren&#8217;t just condoning the use of sweat shops through your purchase of a nike product, but you are taking a sarcastic swipe at the practice as well.</p>
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		By: Tony Summerville		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/06/nike-custom-shoes#comment-6722</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony Summerville]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve played around with the shoe customizer a couple of times but never actually ordered anything.  The interface is pretty amazing.. too bad about the ordering system, though.

How did the shoes feel?  Does it feel like you&#039;re barefoot?  I like the commercial for those shoes.  I need to try a pair on..

Also, be sure to check out the &quot;Training Log&quot; over at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nike.com/nikerunning/usa/home.jhtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nike Running&lt;/a&gt;.  Talk about another sweet interface...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve played around with the shoe customizer a couple of times but never actually ordered anything.  The interface is pretty amazing.. too bad about the ordering system, though.</p>
<p>How did the shoes feel?  Does it feel like you&#8217;re barefoot?  I like the commercial for those shoes.  I need to try a pair on..</p>
<p>Also, be sure to check out the &#8220;Training Log&#8221; over at <a href="http://www.nike.com/nikerunning/usa/home.jhtml" rel="nofollow">Nike Running</a>.  Talk about another sweet interface&#8230;</p>
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		By: Mike D.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/06/nike-custom-shoes#comment-6723</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Phil: Ha!

Don: Yes, you are totally right. Luckily, however, I am not a &quot;real runner&quot;, but just a schmuck who does a three mile jog every so often. I totally agree that buying shoes based on looks/ability-to-configure-online is not a good idea, but as a designer, I have a serious bias towards the well-designed. I even buy food at supermarkets based on how nice the packaging is. Yes, I know... it&#039;s an affliction. Maybe someday I&#039;ll get over it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil: Ha!</p>
<p>Don: Yes, you are totally right. Luckily, however, I am not a &#8220;real runner&#8221;, but just a schmuck who does a three mile jog every so often. I totally agree that buying shoes based on looks/ability-to-configure-online is not a good idea, but as a designer, I have a serious bias towards the well-designed. I even buy food at supermarkets based on how nice the packaging is. Yes, I know&#8230; it&#8217;s an affliction. Maybe someday I&#8217;ll get over it.</p>
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		By: Mike D.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/06/nike-custom-shoes#comment-6724</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ro: Yes, definitely a sarcastic swipe, but Nike has cleaned up their act since the child labor fiasco of several years ago. I wouldn&#039;t really be buying the shoes if I thought they were being produced under unethical working conditions.

Tony: The shoes felt great at the store.  Definitely a lot lighter than most shoes I&#039;ve worn.  But as Don said, it&#039;s possible there are even better shoes out there (viz. New Balance).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ro: Yes, definitely a sarcastic swipe, but Nike has cleaned up their act since the child labor fiasco of several years ago. I wouldn&#8217;t really be buying the shoes if I thought they were being produced under unethical working conditions.</p>
<p>Tony: The shoes felt great at the store.  Definitely a lot lighter than most shoes I&#8217;ve worn.  But as Don said, it&#8217;s possible there are even better shoes out there (viz. New Balance).</p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/06/nike-custom-shoes#comment-6725</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt; I even buy food at supermarkets based on how nice the packaging is.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

wow... talk about feeding the eye before the mouth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> I even buy food at supermarkets based on how nice the packaging is.</p></blockquote>
<p>wow&#8230; talk about feeding the eye before the mouth.</p>
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		By: M.e.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/06/nike-custom-shoes#comment-6726</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M.e.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Try it now, man.  I just ordered one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try it now, man.  I just ordered one.</p>
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