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		By: Josh Bryant		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/05/adium#comment-5521</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Bryant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I discovered Adium a long time ago, back when Panther was brand new and have tried to stick with it all the way along its beta development.

Unfortunately, I have grown tired of the development cycle. The developers seem to be more interested in adding new marketed features than actually making the already present &quot;features&quot; work correctly. Some key features i.e. file transfers still do not work correctly, and the development team continues to blame GAIM for the lack of support, yet other apps that make use of GAIM such as Proteus work just fine.

I really hope that in a year or so when Adium hits a 1.0 release, many of these issues will be fixed. It really could be a beautiful app, if only it would just work.

People that discover Adium are usually intrigued with the face of the program, but little by little begin to be frustrated with its constant quirkiness and constant crashing. Trust me, little by little, you will begin to develop the love/hate relationship with this App. It may take a week, it may take a year. If your after an app that looks pretty, Adium hits the nail, if your after an app that works correctly and consistently, Adium falls short by miles.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I discovered Adium a long time ago, back when Panther was brand new and have tried to stick with it all the way along its beta development.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I have grown tired of the development cycle. The developers seem to be more interested in adding new marketed features than actually making the already present &#8220;features&#8221; work correctly. Some key features i.e. file transfers still do not work correctly, and the development team continues to blame GAIM for the lack of support, yet other apps that make use of GAIM such as Proteus work just fine.</p>
<p>I really hope that in a year or so when Adium hits a 1.0 release, many of these issues will be fixed. It really could be a beautiful app, if only it would just work.</p>
<p>People that discover Adium are usually intrigued with the face of the program, but little by little begin to be frustrated with its constant quirkiness and constant crashing. Trust me, little by little, you will begin to develop the love/hate relationship with this App. It may take a week, it may take a year. If your after an app that looks pretty, Adium hits the nail, if your after an app that works correctly and consistently, Adium falls short by miles.</p>
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		By: Mike D.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/05/adium#comment-5522</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Josh: I totally felt the same way until this latest .8 (and .81) release.  For me, when the .8 series came out, all of the problems you mentioned seemed to have magically gone away.  No crashes, no quirkiness, and file transfers work just great.  I just transferred a 65 meg file last night over Adium in fact.

I definitely agree with what you&#039;ve written, but have you given .81 a shot?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh: I totally felt the same way until this latest .8 (and .81) release.  For me, when the .8 series came out, all of the problems you mentioned seemed to have magically gone away.  No crashes, no quirkiness, and file transfers work just great.  I just transferred a 65 meg file last night over Adium in fact.</p>
<p>I definitely agree with what you&#8217;ve written, but have you given .81 a shot?</p>
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		By: David Barrett		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/05/adium#comment-5523</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Barrett]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike, your status shows up in the top of the contact list (at least it does in 0.80).

&lt;em&gt;(Editor&#039;s Note: Ah yes, so it does! Apparently you need to have your contact list in &quot;regular mode&quot; for this to appear.  I have mine in &quot;group bubble&quot; mode so I don&#039;t see the window chrome. It would still be nice for them to put the status in the bubble area so I can keep window chrome turned off.  Thanks for the tip though.)&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, your status shows up in the top of the contact list (at least it does in 0.80).</p>
<p><em>(Editor&#8217;s Note: Ah yes, so it does! Apparently you need to have your contact list in &#8220;regular mode&#8221; for this to appear.  I have mine in &#8220;group bubble&#8221; mode so I don&#8217;t see the window chrome. It would still be nice for them to put the status in the bubble area so I can keep window chrome turned off.  Thanks for the tip though.)</em></p>
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		By: Izzy		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/05/adium#comment-5524</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m using .81 now and hating the fact that file transfer is supposed to work but is most definitely not.  I&#039;ve tried just about everything I can think of, and not only does it not work, the app crashes or I get kicked off every time I try to send a file.

It&#039;s a great app, but I agree with Josh about the love/hate relationship.  I love the way it looks and I love the tabs, but I hate that something like file transfer is still seemingly not that big a priority to the developers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m using .81 now and hating the fact that file transfer is supposed to work but is most definitely not.  I&#8217;ve tried just about everything I can think of, and not only does it not work, the app crashes or I get kicked off every time I try to send a file.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a great app, but I agree with Josh about the love/hate relationship.  I love the way it looks and I love the tabs, but I hate that something like file transfer is still seemingly not that big a priority to the developers.</p>
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		By: Brian		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/05/adium#comment-5525</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Adium is most clearly the best instant messaging client in existence&lt;/em&gt;

The most recent version of Trillian would easily give it a run for it&#039;s money (Windows ap). It supports every major (and a few minor) messaging protocols including IRC and has some crazy features. 

My favorite of which is Wikipedia integration. Turn it on and if a topic in your chat is the title of a Wikipedia article it gets a dashed underline. Hover over it and you get the text of the Wikipedia article.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Adium is most clearly the best instant messaging client in existence</em></p>
<p>The most recent version of Trillian would easily give it a run for it&#8217;s money (Windows ap). It supports every major (and a few minor) messaging protocols including IRC and has some crazy features. </p>
<p>My favorite of which is Wikipedia integration. Turn it on and if a topic in your chat is the title of a Wikipedia article it gets a dashed underline. Hover over it and you get the text of the Wikipedia article.</p>
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		By: Josh Bryant		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/05/adium#comment-5526</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Bryant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike: Yeah, I did give it a brief shot. I was actually using all the betas that led up to the .8 release. You can always find the beta development at &lt;a href=&quot;http://adiumx.com/beta.html.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://adiumx.com/beta.html.&lt;/a&gt;

Most everything was working again, but file transfers over MSN still did not work for me. Some would start and then stop, others would complete slowly, and then others would just plain not work. When they do work, they work good, but it&#039;s just that feeling of distrust that bugs me. I know that I cannot rely on the app, because the time that I really need it to work will be the time that it doesn&#039;t.

I enjoy playing with software just as much as the next guy, in fact, probably more. But sometimes I just get tired of unexpected behavior and just want it to simply work. Even if it has slightly less features, I just want to use the app, not play with it.

As I said before, .81 was still giving me file transfer problems, there is also still a bug in its communication with keychain (i.e. entering saved passwords before the username is even entered!).

I was also getting a ton of display bugs in message views. Messages would be doubled in the message view even though they were only typed once until you typed something else, then it would correct itself. Artifacts of the display would be left behind, etc...

I probably only used .80/.81 final for a couple days, but after discovering that it still did not always behave, I searched for another solution. I love iChat, but since I am living in Canada for the moment, most of my Canadian friends use MSN, in fact a lot of them have never heard of AOL. But all my friends from Portland and Seattle, as well as all my family uses AOL, so I really needed a multi-protocol solution.

I gave the MSN through iChat a try, but again no file transfer support killed that option. As well, having two different buddy lists was kind of annoying.

I went and did a trial of Proteus, after not having used it since the 10.2 days, and was pleasantly surprised that not only did the app look stunning, but it worked! Everything I threw at it just worked, and that is priceless. I quickly paid for a registration and have been using it for a week now and love it. The only feature I am really missing from Adium is the combining of contacts with multiple IM addresses. Other than that, the app really has proved itself in my book.

I really love Adium, and the enthusiasm that surrounds the development. I am certainly not an Adium hater, I just wished that it worked better for me. I know that it will work perfectly for some, and I am really happy for those people, but until its more stable, I just can&#039;t see myself sticking with it. I am really looking forward to the 1.0 release whenever that happens. I will continue to give each subsequent release a trial though, hoping that stability increases as time passes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: Yeah, I did give it a brief shot. I was actually using all the betas that led up to the .8 release. You can always find the beta development at <a href="http://adiumx.com/beta.html." rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://adiumx.com/beta.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://adiumx.com/beta.html</a>.</p>
<p>Most everything was working again, but file transfers over MSN still did not work for me. Some would start and then stop, others would complete slowly, and then others would just plain not work. When they do work, they work good, but it&#8217;s just that feeling of distrust that bugs me. I know that I cannot rely on the app, because the time that I really need it to work will be the time that it doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I enjoy playing with software just as much as the next guy, in fact, probably more. But sometimes I just get tired of unexpected behavior and just want it to simply work. Even if it has slightly less features, I just want to use the app, not play with it.</p>
<p>As I said before, .81 was still giving me file transfer problems, there is also still a bug in its communication with keychain (i.e. entering saved passwords before the username is even entered!).</p>
<p>I was also getting a ton of display bugs in message views. Messages would be doubled in the message view even though they were only typed once until you typed something else, then it would correct itself. Artifacts of the display would be left behind, etc&#8230;</p>
<p>I probably only used .80/.81 final for a couple days, but after discovering that it still did not always behave, I searched for another solution. I love iChat, but since I am living in Canada for the moment, most of my Canadian friends use MSN, in fact a lot of them have never heard of AOL. But all my friends from Portland and Seattle, as well as all my family uses AOL, so I really needed a multi-protocol solution.</p>
<p>I gave the MSN through iChat a try, but again no file transfer support killed that option. As well, having two different buddy lists was kind of annoying.</p>
<p>I went and did a trial of Proteus, after not having used it since the 10.2 days, and was pleasantly surprised that not only did the app look stunning, but it worked! Everything I threw at it just worked, and that is priceless. I quickly paid for a registration and have been using it for a week now and love it. The only feature I am really missing from Adium is the combining of contacts with multiple IM addresses. Other than that, the app really has proved itself in my book.</p>
<p>I really love Adium, and the enthusiasm that surrounds the development. I am certainly not an Adium hater, I just wished that it worked better for me. I know that it will work perfectly for some, and I am really happy for those people, but until its more stable, I just can&#8217;t see myself sticking with it. I am really looking forward to the 1.0 release whenever that happens. I will continue to give each subsequent release a trial though, hoping that stability increases as time passes.</p>
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		By: Jeff Croft		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/05/adium#comment-5527</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Croft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Okay, Mike, you&#039;ve almost convinced me to try Audium...and hurt my feelings now that I know you are an IM whore and you never IM me. :(

But I have a couple questions:

1. Will it work with my iSight?
2. Does it integrate with OS X&#039;s address book, a la iChat?

Frankly, if it can&#039;t do those two things, I doubt I&#039;d switch, even though I&#039;m definitely not enamored with iChat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, Mike, you&#8217;ve almost convinced me to try Audium&#8230;and hurt my feelings now that I know you are an IM whore and you never IM me. :(</p>
<p>But I have a couple questions:</p>
<p>1. Will it work with my iSight?<br />
2. Does it integrate with OS X&#8217;s address book, a la iChat?</p>
<p>Frankly, if it can&#8217;t do those two things, I doubt I&#8217;d switch, even though I&#8217;m definitely not enamored with iChat.</p>
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		By: Heck		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/05/adium#comment-5528</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You could see your status including your own user names for different services in a group, then putting that group at the top of the contact list, I did that in the past. The ability to see your status, now present in a regular window, should be available in all modes though, that&#039;s true.

I created my own theme and all is transparent (using bubbles), so I only have the names of my contacts floating ordered in a corner in Argon Tight, a similar font to Kottke&#039;s. Very useful, but still out of my way when working.

I believe Adium has been quite usable since they hit version 0.7.x (at least that&#039;s when it replaced all IM apps for me) although it&#039;s definitely improved a lot with the last two releases. Wish they included IRC as well, but I believe that&#039;s not in the plans.

&lt;em&gt;(Editor&#039;s Note: That&#039;s a nice little hack Heck! Added myself as a contact and now my status appears in the list. Still can&#039;t change my status from there, but at least I can see it now. Cheers.)&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could see your status including your own user names for different services in a group, then putting that group at the top of the contact list, I did that in the past. The ability to see your status, now present in a regular window, should be available in all modes though, that&#8217;s true.</p>
<p>I created my own theme and all is transparent (using bubbles), so I only have the names of my contacts floating ordered in a corner in Argon Tight, a similar font to Kottke&#8217;s. Very useful, but still out of my way when working.</p>
<p>I believe Adium has been quite usable since they hit version 0.7.x (at least that&#8217;s when it replaced all IM apps for me) although it&#8217;s definitely improved a lot with the last two releases. Wish they included IRC as well, but I believe that&#8217;s not in the plans.</p>
<p><em>(Editor&#8217;s Note: That&#8217;s a nice little hack Heck! Added myself as a contact and now my status appears in the list. Still can&#8217;t change my status from there, but at least I can see it now. Cheers.)</em></p>
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		By: Boris Mann		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/05/adium#comment-5529</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boris Mann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You missed one of the most killer features: it integrates directly with your OS X Address Book.

Add all the IM addresses to a person&#039;s entry in AB, and the grouping will be done automatically. You can also set options in Adium so that the name is that in the Address Book entry, and even tell it to automatically use the photo if you have one for that person.

/me loves being locked into the Apple trunk....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You missed one of the most killer features: it integrates directly with your OS X Address Book.</p>
<p>Add all the IM addresses to a person&#8217;s entry in AB, and the grouping will be done automatically. You can also set options in Adium so that the name is that in the Address Book entry, and even tell it to automatically use the photo if you have one for that person.</p>
<p>/me loves being locked into the Apple trunk&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Chris Decker		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/05/adium#comment-5530</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Decker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Mike:  You can have Adium display the away message on the buddy list.  I think you&#039;re not seeing it because of the List theme you choose.  I quickly played around to see if I could tweak your current theme in the preferences, but I couldn&#039;t.  I know other theme&#039;s feature this, so it&#039;s only a matter of finding the setting.  I would search/post on the AdiumX forums!

@ Joe Croft:
1)  No, it will not work with your iSight.  I would recommend creating a second AIM account and just leave your iChat open for that.  If you&#039;re limited on resources I suppose you could just open iChat when needed.
2)  Yes, it integrates with OS X&quot;s address book, but it takes things one step further: it groups a contact&#039;s IM names.  For example, if you have a friend, Joe, on your list, and he has 3 screennames online, it&#039;ll show Joe one time on your list.  When you send Joe an IM it allows you to choose which name to send it to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mike:  You can have Adium display the away message on the buddy list.  I think you&#8217;re not seeing it because of the List theme you choose.  I quickly played around to see if I could tweak your current theme in the preferences, but I couldn&#8217;t.  I know other theme&#8217;s feature this, so it&#8217;s only a matter of finding the setting.  I would search/post on the AdiumX forums!</p>
<p>@ Joe Croft:<br />
1)  No, it will not work with your iSight.  I would recommend creating a second AIM account and just leave your iChat open for that.  If you&#8217;re limited on resources I suppose you could just open iChat when needed.<br />
2)  Yes, it integrates with OS X&#8221;s address book, but it takes things one step further: it groups a contact&#8217;s IM names.  For example, if you have a friend, Joe, on your list, and he has 3 screennames online, it&#8217;ll show Joe one time on your list.  When you send Joe an IM it allows you to choose which name to send it to.</p>
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		By: Silus Grok		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/05/adium#comment-5531</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Silus Grok]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love Adium... my only complaint is its half-assed integration with ADDRESS BOOK. I really want it to behave more like iChat in this regard: uploading all my contacts that have IM data, and adding contacts to the ADDRESS BOOK when I add contacts to the list.

I&#039;m using .77, so maybe it&#039;s changed... but right now, that&#039;s my only complaint.

: )]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Adium&#8230; my only complaint is its half-assed integration with ADDRESS BOOK. I really want it to behave more like iChat in this regard: uploading all my contacts that have IM data, and adding contacts to the ADDRESS BOOK when I add contacts to the list.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m using .77, so maybe it&#8217;s changed&#8230; but right now, that&#8217;s my only complaint.</p>
<p>: )</p>
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		By: Jeff Croft		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/05/adium#comment-5532</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Croft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the info, Chris.

I&#039;m going to download it and check it out. There are definitely things I like about it, but not working with my iSight may be a dealbreaker. One more question. Does it (or any Mac IM client) support invisibility on the networks that have it (yahoo, AIM)?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info, Chris.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to download it and check it out. There are definitely things I like about it, but not working with my iSight may be a dealbreaker. One more question. Does it (or any Mac IM client) support invisibility on the networks that have it (yahoo, AIM)?</p>
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		By: Chris Decker		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/05/adium#comment-5533</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@ Jeff:  Yes, it supports invisiblility on all protocols that support it.  

@ Silus:  The address book integration isn&#039;t bad if you ask me, and hasn&#039;t been for a few versions now.  If you used iChat with your screenname you list will automatically be populated with the actual name of the person.  If you have someone in your AB that you want added to your list you can select their name/screenname from a menu and add the contact that way.  Very simple.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jeff:  Yes, it supports invisiblility on all protocols that support it.  </p>
<p>@ Silus:  The address book integration isn&#8217;t bad if you ask me, and hasn&#8217;t been for a few versions now.  If you used iChat with your screenname you list will automatically be populated with the actual name of the person.  If you have someone in your AB that you want added to your list you can select their name/screenname from a menu and add the contact that way.  Very simple.</p>
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		By: stuart		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/05/adium#comment-5534</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow. Ive just revisited Adium myself after your comments here - and It really has improved. I ditched it last time around becuase it just didnt feel as intuitive as other apps, now thats sorted and is a useable app. Cheers for the tip Mike.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Ive just revisited Adium myself after your comments here &#8211; and It really has improved. I ditched it last time around becuase it just didnt feel as intuitive as other apps, now thats sorted and is a useable app. Cheers for the tip Mike.</p>
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		By: Jeff Croft		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2005/05/adium#comment-5535</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Croft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I downloaded it -- it is looking good. What about Spotlight? Can I easily find chat transcripts from Adium like I can fron iChat?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I downloaded it &#8212; it is looking good. What about Spotlight? Can I easily find chat transcripts from Adium like I can fron iChat?</p>
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