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		By: Nick Cowie		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/12/sifr-2-0-release-candidate-2#comment-1824</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick Cowie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you!

Time to go and play and see how it works.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>Time to go and play and see how it works.</p>
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		By: Jonathan Fenocchi		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/12/sifr-2-0-release-candidate-2#comment-1825</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan Fenocchi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Awesome! I can really tell that there has been a speed upgrade; before, highlighting sIFR text was slow, trippy, and the text didn&#039;t always even get highlighted. Now it&#039;s much, much faster and cleaner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome! I can really tell that there has been a speed upgrade; before, highlighting sIFR text was slow, trippy, and the text didn&#8217;t always even get highlighted. Now it&#8217;s much, much faster and cleaner.</p>
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		By: Gerrit		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/12/sifr-2-0-release-candidate-2#comment-1826</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerrit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you so much, you are great coders! Are bug reports still to be placed here as a comment? Okay then. Now SAFARI finally shows german &quot;Umlaute&quot; like Ã¤, Ã¶ and so on. Very cool. BUT: If I use the uppercase-option of sIFR, the &quot;Umlaute&quot; won&#039;t go uppercase. This is a very specific problem, I know. But for german webdesigners it would be very nice if you could fix that.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scherenburgfestspiele.de/html2005/dach.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Example&lt;/a&gt; (Only in Safari)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much, you are great coders! Are bug reports still to be placed here as a comment? Okay then. Now SAFARI finally shows german &#8220;Umlaute&#8221; like Ã¤, Ã¶ and so on. Very cool. BUT: If I use the uppercase-option of sIFR, the &#8220;Umlaute&#8221; won&#8217;t go uppercase. This is a very specific problem, I know. But for german webdesigners it would be very nice if you could fix that.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.scherenburgfestspiele.de/html2005/dach.html" rel="nofollow">Example</a> (Only in Safari)</p>
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		By: Olly		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/12/sifr-2-0-release-candidate-2#comment-1827</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Olly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rock on! I&#039;ll be sure to check this out.

By the way, the permalink to this entry won&#039;t open in Internet Explorer 6 on this machine (XP SP2), though its fine in Firefox. Instead I get the File Download dialog. Other permalinks open fine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rock on! I&#8217;ll be sure to check this out.</p>
<p>By the way, the permalink to this entry won&#8217;t open in Internet Explorer 6 on this machine (XP SP2), though its fine in Firefox. Instead I get the File Download dialog. Other permalinks open fine.</p>
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		By: Mark Wubben		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/12/sifr-2-0-release-candidate-2#comment-1828</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Wubben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gerrit, this is a bug in Safari. For some reason Safari&#039;s JavaScript implementation cannot uppercase those characters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerrit, this is a bug in Safari. For some reason Safari&#8217;s JavaScript implementation cannot uppercase those characters.</p>
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		By: sunshine		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/12/sifr-2-0-release-candidate-2#comment-1829</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sunshine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Using IE6 Win SP2 I&#039;m having issues... but only sometimes.  I had this problem with release candidate 1 as well but I thought I would wait for a new one and try a fresh start.

On &lt;a href=&quot;http://9rules.com/whitespace/our_thoughts/original_copy.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;whitespace&lt;/a&gt; I see the headers no problem. 

On both your blog and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.designbyfire.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;design by fire&lt;/a&gt; I get blankness where the replacements should be.

On your latest test page and my own feeble attempt, the status bar never gets to the end and reports that  there are &quot;x items remaining&quot; where x is the number of replacements on the page.

I&#039;m convinced it&#039;s something I&#039;m doing but I&#039;m not sure what.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using IE6 Win SP2 I&#8217;m having issues&#8230; but only sometimes.  I had this problem with release candidate 1 as well but I thought I would wait for a new one and try a fresh start.</p>
<p>On <a href="http://9rules.com/whitespace/our_thoughts/original_copy.php" rel="nofollow">whitespace</a> I see the headers no problem. </p>
<p>On both your blog and <a href="http://www.designbyfire.com" rel="nofollow">design by fire</a> I get blankness where the replacements should be.</p>
<p>On your latest test page and my own feeble attempt, the status bar never gets to the end and reports that  there are &#8220;x items remaining&#8221; where x is the number of replacements on the page.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m convinced it&#8217;s something I&#8217;m doing but I&#8217;m not sure what.</p>
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		By: Mark Wubben		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/12/sifr-2-0-release-candidate-2#comment-1830</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Wubben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey sunshine,

We are aware of this problem and a workaround has been in the sIFR code for quite some time now. We&#039;re going to need a bit more information from you to see if we can replicate your specific problem. (And, perhaps, some more bug reports.)

Also it should be noted that Design by Fire is still using an old version of sIFR (or perhaps even IFR?).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey sunshine,</p>
<p>We are aware of this problem and a workaround has been in the sIFR code for quite some time now. We&#8217;re going to need a bit more information from you to see if we can replicate your specific problem. (And, perhaps, some more bug reports.)</p>
<p>Also it should be noted that Design by Fire is still using an old version of sIFR (or perhaps even IFR?).</p>
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		By: Jeff Croft		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/12/sifr-2-0-release-candidate-2#comment-1831</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Croft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks again Mike, Mark, Shaun, and everyone else who is responsible. This sounds like a great release -- I&#039;m looking forward to giving it a go...

Sunshine-

I don&#039;t believe Paul is using sIFR on Whitespace. It sounds to me like you&#039;re actually have the problem all the time. Do you have problems with other Flash content?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again Mike, Mark, Shaun, and everyone else who is responsible. This sounds like a great release &#8212; I&#8217;m looking forward to giving it a go&#8230;</p>
<p>Sunshine-</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe Paul is using sIFR on Whitespace. It sounds to me like you&#8217;re actually have the problem all the time. Do you have problems with other Flash content?</p>
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		By: Mark Wubben		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/12/sifr-2-0-release-candidate-2#comment-1832</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Wubben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jeff and sunshine, the problem appears to be that IE has trouble loading the Flash file, the solution Mike found was to force an innerHTML change - just as I did to force Safari to repaint.

Meanwhile Mark goes on checking if some Mozilla bugs have already been squashed....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff and sunshine, the problem appears to be that IE has trouble loading the Flash file, the solution Mike found was to force an innerHTML change &#8211; just as I did to force Safari to repaint.</p>
<p>Meanwhile Mark goes on checking if some Mozilla bugs have already been squashed&#8230;.</p>
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		By: MikeH		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/12/sifr-2-0-release-candidate-2#comment-1833</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[nice update, interesting to hear that 2entwine is using it for photobuzz]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice update, interesting to hear that 2entwine is using it for photobuzz</p>
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		By: Ben Pickles		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/12/sifr-2-0-release-candidate-2#comment-1834</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Pickles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Links passed to the Flash file seem to stop at the first &quot;&amp;&quot; sign - whether it&#039;s an &quot;&amp;&quot; or a &quot;&#038;&quot;. This didn&#039;t occur in RC1, is anyone else seeing this?

Ben

&lt;em&gt;(Editor&#039;s Note: Oops.  We just fixed that.  Re-uploaded a new RC2 at 12:55pm Pacific Time today, Monday, December 6th. Thanks for the alert and sorry for the oversight.)&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Links passed to the Flash file seem to stop at the first &#8220;&#038;&#8221; sign &#8211; whether it&#8217;s an &#8220;&#038;&#8221; or a &#8220;&amp;&#8221;. This didn&#8217;t occur in RC1, is anyone else seeing this?</p>
<p>Ben</p>
<p><em>(Editor&#8217;s Note: Oops.  We just fixed that.  Re-uploaded a new RC2 at 12:55pm Pacific Time today, Monday, December 6th. Thanks for the alert and sorry for the oversight.)</em></p>
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		By: Ed		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/12/sifr-2-0-release-candidate-2#comment-1835</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First, great work, and thank you.

Second, the new script conflicted with some js generated layers, with the sIFR replaced content forced to the top (above layers generated by Aaron B&#039;s ypSlideoutMenu). I can&#039;t show you an example, but I narrowed down the difference between RC1 and RC2 that caused it. 

On line 333, RC2 says &quot;transparent&quot; : &quot;&quot;;. In what I believe to be the equivalent code from RC1, line 265, it said &quot;transparent&quot; : &quot;opaque&quot;;.  I don&#039;t know what I&#039;ve potentially broken by adding &quot;opaque&quot; back into the RC2 script, but at least the layers are now stacking correctly in Win IE 6 and Firefox 1. So, I&#039;m happy for the moment, but I don&#039;t know if that may cause bigger problems for others.

Lastly, RC1 (and previous versions, I believe) incorrectly stacked layers only in Win Opera 7.54, but RC2 doesn&#039;t replace the headline content at all (with either original RC2 sIFR.js or my edited version). Again, not so much an issue in my eyes, but it could be a sign of bigger problems for others.

Thanks again to Mike, Mark, and everyone else!
-ed

&lt;em&gt;(Editor&#039;s Note: We actually decided to change the way window modes were handled in this release.  Before, &quot;opaque&quot; was the default.  Now, &quot;&quot; is the default.  &quot;&quot; is a better default because it takes up less processor power if you don&#039;t need stacking.  If you do need to stack DHTML elements though, &quot;opaque&quot; is still supported. We added the ability to pass this in as the last parameter of the function.  See the readme file for details. Please also make sure you have the lastest RC2, which was uploaded at 12:55pm Pacific Time today, Monday December 6th.)&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, great work, and thank you.</p>
<p>Second, the new script conflicted with some js generated layers, with the sIFR replaced content forced to the top (above layers generated by Aaron B&#8217;s ypSlideoutMenu). I can&#8217;t show you an example, but I narrowed down the difference between RC1 and RC2 that caused it. </p>
<p>On line 333, RC2 says &#8220;transparent&#8221; : &#8220;&#8221;;. In what I believe to be the equivalent code from RC1, line 265, it said &#8220;transparent&#8221; : &#8220;opaque&#8221;;.  I don&#8217;t know what I&#8217;ve potentially broken by adding &#8220;opaque&#8221; back into the RC2 script, but at least the layers are now stacking correctly in Win IE 6 and Firefox 1. So, I&#8217;m happy for the moment, but I don&#8217;t know if that may cause bigger problems for others.</p>
<p>Lastly, RC1 (and previous versions, I believe) incorrectly stacked layers only in Win Opera 7.54, but RC2 doesn&#8217;t replace the headline content at all (with either original RC2 sIFR.js or my edited version). Again, not so much an issue in my eyes, but it could be a sign of bigger problems for others.</p>
<p>Thanks again to Mike, Mark, and everyone else!<br />
-ed</p>
<p><em>(Editor&#8217;s Note: We actually decided to change the way window modes were handled in this release.  Before, &#8220;opaque&#8221; was the default.  Now, &#8220;&#8221; is the default.  &#8220;&#8221; is a better default because it takes up less processor power if you don&#8217;t need stacking.  If you do need to stack DHTML elements though, &#8220;opaque&#8221; is still supported. We added the ability to pass this in as the last parameter of the function.  See the readme file for details. Please also make sure you have the lastest RC2, which was uploaded at 12:55pm Pacific Time today, Monday December 6th.)</em></p>
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		By: Joen		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/12/sifr-2-0-release-candidate-2#comment-1836</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have just deployed it, and I must say it has some very nice improvements.

Some of my main woes with RC1 was related to the way links were handled. Nearly all of those problems were caused by Macromedia, not sIFR. However, one specific issue was that Firefox on Windows had trouble with links. More specifically, if a page was scrolled, it would require a double-click on a link, as if to first &quot;activate&quot; it, and &lt;em&gt;then&lt;/em&gt; follow the link. It is a pleasure that this bug has been fixed in RC2, whether you were conscious about it or not. 

As an added benefit of the above bugfix, I&#039;m now using a hover color, and related to that I&#039;d like to add to a wishlist for the final release that you plainly use textfields for links and hovercolors,  and not have them reside inside a button, or movieclip as seems to be the case now. The benefit of this would be that links can be right-clicked / copied. While this&#039;ll be a hassle to program, I&#039;m fairly sure it can be done, and I honestly think the - albeit small - usability improvement would be worth it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just deployed it, and I must say it has some very nice improvements.</p>
<p>Some of my main woes with RC1 was related to the way links were handled. Nearly all of those problems were caused by Macromedia, not sIFR. However, one specific issue was that Firefox on Windows had trouble with links. More specifically, if a page was scrolled, it would require a double-click on a link, as if to first &#8220;activate&#8221; it, and <em>then</em> follow the link. It is a pleasure that this bug has been fixed in RC2, whether you were conscious about it or not. </p>
<p>As an added benefit of the above bugfix, I&#8217;m now using a hover color, and related to that I&#8217;d like to add to a wishlist for the final release that you plainly use textfields for links and hovercolors,  and not have them reside inside a button, or movieclip as seems to be the case now. The benefit of this would be that links can be right-clicked / copied. While this&#8217;ll be a hassle to program, I&#8217;m fairly sure it can be done, and I honestly think the &#8211; albeit small &#8211; usability improvement would be worth it.</p>
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		By: Mark Wubben		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/12/sifr-2-0-release-candidate-2#comment-1837</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Wubben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Joen, I only discovered this fix today, and we sort of smuggled it into the release. This prompted the problem Ed wrote about. Then there was the problem Ben pointed out.. it&#039;s been a crazy 2 hours fixing it all again! 

We&#039;re running the latest tests now, Mike will make an announcement in the post itself when we&#039;re done. RC 2.1 ;-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joen, I only discovered this fix today, and we sort of smuggled it into the release. This prompted the problem Ed wrote about. Then there was the problem Ben pointed out.. it&#8217;s been a crazy 2 hours fixing it all again! </p>
<p>We&#8217;re running the latest tests now, Mike will make an announcement in the post itself when we&#8217;re done. RC 2.1 ;-)</p>
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		By: Mark Wubben		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/12/sifr-2-0-release-candidate-2#comment-1838</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Wubben]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And it&#039;s there.... I&#039;ll write about this all some more tomorrow. Now it&#039;s bedtime for me!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it&#8217;s there&#8230;. I&#8217;ll write about this all some more tomorrow. Now it&#8217;s bedtime for me!</p>
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