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		By: Mike Davidson - MacWorld 2008 Predictions		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] often times getting bold, unpopular, against-the-grain predictions mostly right but being a little early on timing. So here&#8217;s my crop for this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] often times getting bold, unpopular, against-the-grain predictions mostly right but being a little early on timing. So here&#8217;s my crop for this [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: CrunchGear ? Archive ? Free iPhone*		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 14:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Most service providers have data plans priced in roughly the same ballpark so it wouldn?t be hard for an Apple iPhone to come with a $10 per month data plan &#8230; More Info&#8230; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Most service providers have data plans priced in roughly the same ballpark so it wouldn?t be hard for an Apple iPhone to come with a $10 per month data plan &#8230; More Info&#8230; [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Faruk Ateş		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting read. It&#039;ll also be interesting to see what Apple will do, in the end. 

I&#039;m curious about what Apple will do overseas, here in Europe.  I don&#039;t think we have the Treo 600 (yet) around here, but I may be mistaken on that. However, the real issue would be the different approach needed for each country in Europe. Any theories on that part, Mike? :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting read. It&#8217;ll also be interesting to see what Apple will do, in the end. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious about what Apple will do overseas, here in Europe.  I don&#8217;t think we have the Treo 600 (yet) around here, but I may be mistaken on that. However, the real issue would be the different approach needed for each country in Europe. Any theories on that part, Mike? :)</p>
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		By: Andy Budd		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d really like to see an Apple mobile phone, however I think it would be sensible for them to wait at least another 18 months. At the moment, in the UK anyway, mobile phone manufacturers are beholden to the people running the networks. However in 18 months time we are going to start to see technologies like VoIP and long distance WiFi start to emerge which may finally allow mobile phone manufacturers the freedom they&#039;ve been wanting for so long.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d really like to see an Apple mobile phone, however I think it would be sensible for them to wait at least another 18 months. At the moment, in the UK anyway, mobile phone manufacturers are beholden to the people running the networks. However in 18 months time we are going to start to see technologies like VoIP and long distance WiFi start to emerge which may finally allow mobile phone manufacturers the freedom they&#8217;ve been wanting for so long.</p>
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		By: Fred		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;It definitely needs to include WiFi.&lt;/b&gt;. If Apple is going to be it&#039;s normal self, it needs to leapfrog everyone else, especially if it&#039;s expensive. It also needs to work well without a .mac account. Local iSyncing is a must.
Even though I&#039;d like to see an iPhone, I&#039;ll believe it when I see it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>It definitely needs to include WiFi.</b>. If Apple is going to be it&#8217;s normal self, it needs to leapfrog everyone else, especially if it&#8217;s expensive. It also needs to work well without a .mac account. Local iSyncing is a must.<br />
Even though I&#8217;d like to see an iPhone, I&#8217;ll believe it when I see it.</p>
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		By: Blake Scarbrough		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/07/all-hail-the-iphone#comment-336</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would like to see an Apple PDA before a phone. I think it would be easier to move to that than jump right to a phone. Much like Handspring did before they were bought out by Palm.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see an Apple PDA before a phone. I think it would be easier to move to that than jump right to a phone. Much like Handspring did before they were bought out by Palm.</p>
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		By: Paolo		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/07/all-hail-the-iphone#comment-337</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great piece. I take my iPod everywhere, and when in Japan recently with a cellphone it was a pain carrying two devices. Why not just have a cellphone module that plugs in (like the Belkin devices) to the existing iPod somehow? I can&#039;t believe it would be too difficult to create, and then one just uses the familiar clickwheel to select a caller. (I suppose there would have to be a separate keypad as well.)

Anyway I have no doubt they have several prototypes knocking about.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece. I take my iPod everywhere, and when in Japan recently with a cellphone it was a pain carrying two devices. Why not just have a cellphone module that plugs in (like the Belkin devices) to the existing iPod somehow? I can&#8217;t believe it would be too difficult to create, and then one just uses the familiar clickwheel to select a caller. (I suppose there would have to be a separate keypad as well.)</p>
<p>Anyway I have no doubt they have several prototypes knocking about.</p>
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		By: Greg		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know ... I think that a reason the iPod was such a success is that it did one thing very well. I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if Apple&#039;s next device followed that same principle.

I would like to see an Apple e-book reader. It&#039;s an industry that&#039;s plagued with low-quality devices trying to sell as cheaply as possible. That&#039;s the same thing that was going on in the MP3 player world before Apple stepped in.

An e-book needs &lt;em&gt;better&lt;/em&gt; screens than laptops, not old Palm V-style screens. Two paperback-sized 200 DPI displays, hinged in the middle. Apple is the kind of company to throw quality at e-books.

The one problem I see is that there&#039;s no real &quot;MP3 of the e-book world&quot;. The best bet is probably the PDF format, which Apple has been ruling in Preview. But, there are plenty of others out there, ranging from crappy plain text to crappy proprietary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know &#8230; I think that a reason the iPod was such a success is that it did one thing very well. I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if Apple&#8217;s next device followed that same principle.</p>
<p>I would like to see an Apple e-book reader. It&#8217;s an industry that&#8217;s plagued with low-quality devices trying to sell as cheaply as possible. That&#8217;s the same thing that was going on in the MP3 player world before Apple stepped in.</p>
<p>An e-book needs <em>better</em> screens than laptops, not old Palm V-style screens. Two paperback-sized 200 DPI displays, hinged in the middle. Apple is the kind of company to throw quality at e-books.</p>
<p>The one problem I see is that there&#8217;s no real &#8220;MP3 of the e-book world&#8221;. The best bet is probably the PDF format, which Apple has been ruling in Preview. But, there are plenty of others out there, ranging from crappy plain text to crappy proprietary.</p>
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		By: larry		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Apple should make a VOIP handset. If they could make it work with bluetooth and cellphones it would fly off the shelf.]]></description>
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		By: Carl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This could be a great use for all those Newton design specs sitting on someone&#039;s desk.  I&#039;ve been hoping for the Newton to be reborn, and this would be a great way to do it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This could be a great use for all those Newton design specs sitting on someone&#8217;s desk.  I&#8217;ve been hoping for the Newton to be reborn, and this would be a great way to do it.</p>
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		By: Johnathan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Virgin doesn&#039;t send out bills! It&#039;s pre-paid, as you mention later in your post. They do have a rough equivalent of a &quot;bill&quot; that can be checked online (it&#039;s a detailed statement of all calls, charges, credits, etc.) but since all fees are paid in advance, there is never a bill. I think not sending paper bills to anyone is probably a relatively important part of their business model.

As for Apple - I agree that I&#039;d rather see them make a decent eBook reading device than a phone. There are so many phones already; maybe by the time you predict, there will have been a bit of a shakeout in the market, creating room for a new introduction.

Really though, an eBook reader with associated &quot;iRead Book Store&quot; wouldn&#039;t be bad. It&#039;d also be nice though if they offered some free (RSS? Atom?) news feeds to be loaded onto the book (and let us add our own).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Virgin doesn&#8217;t send out bills! It&#8217;s pre-paid, as you mention later in your post. They do have a rough equivalent of a &#8220;bill&#8221; that can be checked online (it&#8217;s a detailed statement of all calls, charges, credits, etc.) but since all fees are paid in advance, there is never a bill. I think not sending paper bills to anyone is probably a relatively important part of their business model.</p>
<p>As for Apple &#8211; I agree that I&#8217;d rather see them make a decent eBook reading device than a phone. There are so many phones already; maybe by the time you predict, there will have been a bit of a shakeout in the market, creating room for a new introduction.</p>
<p>Really though, an eBook reader with associated &#8220;iRead Book Store&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t be bad. It&#8217;d also be nice though if they offered some free (RSS? Atom?) news feeds to be loaded onto the book (and let us add our own).</p>
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		By: Mike D.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Faruk: I believe the Treo 600 is available in Europe through &quot;Orange&quot;.  Of course this may not cover all of Europe, but it&#039;s a start.  I&#039;m not as familiar with the international cell phone market as I am the U.S. market, so it&#039;s tough for me to comment further, but it&#039;s really just a matter of frequencies, I believe.  A Cingular Treo works on T-Mobile, and vice versa, so as long as your providers are using some form of CDMA or GSM, getting such a device to work on your network shouldn&#039;t be hard.  Also, I should note that the iPhone could succeed with or without international support.  It would sure be nice to see the thing worldwide, but look at the iPod Mini.  Demand in the U.S. alone was enough to make the product a hit.

Fred: Wi-Fi and VOIP would be nice and it&#039;s possible Apple is waiting for this to be viable, but right now, the reach of Wi-Fi simply isn&#039;t good enough to provide for a wide calling area.  I was able to make phone calls and use the internet from a remote Hawaii beach thanks to T-Mobile&#039;s GSM network, and I just doubt we&#039;ll see that sort of Wi-Fi reach for awhile.  Eventually yes, but the GSM/CDMA stuff is viable right now.

Blake: Ahhh, but the iPhone (and the Treo) IS a PDA!  That&#039;s the beauty of it.  I didn&#039;t even own a PDA until I got my Treo.  It&#039;s a PDA/phone/music player/etc all in one.

Greg and Johnathan: Yes, the iPod succeeded because it did one thing very well, but that doesn&#039;t logically lead to the conclusion that if it did two, three, or four things equally as well, it wouldn&#039;t be an even bigger success.  Concentrating on getting the music part perfect was a smart move, but now that they&#039;ve gotten that down, why not expand?  eBooks are a nice idea and I agree with both of you that we&#039;ll eventually see some nice ones, but the market for that sort of device clearly has not proven to exist quite yet.  Millions of people have cell phones which they routinely replace every few years.  Barely anyone has an eBook reader yet.  Besides, the technology to do the iPhone right exists today, whereas eBooks need a lot more maturing in the display and DRM space before they hit it big.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faruk: I believe the Treo 600 is available in Europe through &#8220;Orange&#8221;.  Of course this may not cover all of Europe, but it&#8217;s a start.  I&#8217;m not as familiar with the international cell phone market as I am the U.S. market, so it&#8217;s tough for me to comment further, but it&#8217;s really just a matter of frequencies, I believe.  A Cingular Treo works on T-Mobile, and vice versa, so as long as your providers are using some form of CDMA or GSM, getting such a device to work on your network shouldn&#8217;t be hard.  Also, I should note that the iPhone could succeed with or without international support.  It would sure be nice to see the thing worldwide, but look at the iPod Mini.  Demand in the U.S. alone was enough to make the product a hit.</p>
<p>Fred: Wi-Fi and VOIP would be nice and it&#8217;s possible Apple is waiting for this to be viable, but right now, the reach of Wi-Fi simply isn&#8217;t good enough to provide for a wide calling area.  I was able to make phone calls and use the internet from a remote Hawaii beach thanks to T-Mobile&#8217;s GSM network, and I just doubt we&#8217;ll see that sort of Wi-Fi reach for awhile.  Eventually yes, but the GSM/CDMA stuff is viable right now.</p>
<p>Blake: Ahhh, but the iPhone (and the Treo) IS a PDA!  That&#8217;s the beauty of it.  I didn&#8217;t even own a PDA until I got my Treo.  It&#8217;s a PDA/phone/music player/etc all in one.</p>
<p>Greg and Johnathan: Yes, the iPod succeeded because it did one thing very well, but that doesn&#8217;t logically lead to the conclusion that if it did two, three, or four things equally as well, it wouldn&#8217;t be an even bigger success.  Concentrating on getting the music part perfect was a smart move, but now that they&#8217;ve gotten that down, why not expand?  eBooks are a nice idea and I agree with both of you that we&#8217;ll eventually see some nice ones, but the market for that sort of device clearly has not proven to exist quite yet.  Millions of people have cell phones which they routinely replace every few years.  Barely anyone has an eBook reader yet.  Besides, the technology to do the iPhone right exists today, whereas eBooks need a lot more maturing in the display and DRM space before they hit it big.</p>
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		By: Bruce McL		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In June Jobs publicly stated that Apple is not interested in the PDA or smart phone market.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=484&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=484&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In June Jobs publicly stated that Apple is not interested in the PDA or smart phone market.<br />
<a href="http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=484" rel="nofollow">http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=484</a></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Mike: Ah, thanks for that bit of technical explanation. Yes, it does sound like it&#039;ll work without a problem, I&#039;ve just not seen it around here in the Netherlands (yet) and the last time I went looking into phones was a few months ago, when everyone here was eagerly awaiting the arrival of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=global&amp;lc=en&amp;ver=4001&amp;template=pp1_1_1&amp;zone=pp&amp;lm=pp1&amp;pid=10101&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sony P900&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for Apple products not requiring European success, this is true, but it&#039;s more fun when they ship their stuff here as well - the various iPods are becoming quite a big hit here, I think. &lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: Ah, thanks for that bit of technical explanation. Yes, it does sound like it&#8217;ll work without a problem, I&#8217;ve just not seen it around here in the Netherlands (yet) and the last time I went looking into phones was a few months ago, when everyone here was eagerly awaiting the arrival of the <a href="http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=global&#038;lc=en&#038;ver=4001&#038;template=pp1_1_1&#038;zone=pp&#038;lm=pp1&#038;pid=10101" rel="nofollow">Sony P900</a>.</p>
<p>As for Apple products not requiring European success, this is true, but it&#8217;s more fun when they ship their stuff here as well &#8211; the various iPods are becoming quite a big hit here, I think. </p>
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