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		By: 125 Code Snippets for web designers &#124; PaulSpoerry.com		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/06/radical-links#comment-32591</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[125 Code Snippets for web designers &#124; PaulSpoerry.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] proper proportions and two characters must be used. Prepared with dynamic generation in mind. Visited Links - Everyone does visited links differently. Jakob Neilson flunkies use the old school [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] proper proportions and two characters must be used. Prepared with dynamic generation in mind. Visited Links &#8211; Everyone does visited links differently. Jakob Neilson flunkies use the old school [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Jemaleddin		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/06/radical-links#comment-221</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jemaleddin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seems a lot like what &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.collylogic.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Simon Collison&lt;/a&gt; has been doing with his sidebar links, but he&#039;s using background images...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems a lot like what <a href="http://www.collylogic.com/" rel="nofollow">Simon Collison</a> has been doing with his sidebar links, but he&#8217;s using background images&#8230;</p>
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		By: Mike P.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/06/radical-links#comment-222</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike P.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;but at least it degrades silently in feature-challenged browsers&quot;

Leaving the browser with 9x% of the marketshare with nothing? 

If you are set on using generated content, perhaps a little hacking for IE? 

* html a:visited along with some padding and a background image would do, similar to the method described in the link that Jemaleddin provides (in #1 above) could be added to clean up the stragglers ;-]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but at least it degrades silently in feature-challenged browsers&#8221;</p>
<p>Leaving the browser with 9x% of the marketshare with nothing? </p>
<p>If you are set on using generated content, perhaps a little hacking for IE? </p>
<p>* html a:visited along with some padding and a background image would do, similar to the method described in the link that Jemaleddin provides (in #1 above) could be added to clean up the stragglers ;-]</p>
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		By: Colly		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/06/radical-links#comment-223</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Colly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I stopped at adding &#039;ticks&#039; to mid-sentence links as I personally felt it affected legibility and reading speed, but it works well on things like comments, permalink, trackback links.

I made a version of the mid-sentence version work by using a background image, not specifying block width, and aligning link text to the right. Worked a treat, and fully cross-browser.

I&#039;ll be evangelical about using ticks for added usability wherever possible. But, be wary of using background images on links:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.collylogic.com/index.php/weblog/comments/52/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;background images security flaw&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk/archives/link_monkey_business.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;more here&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped at adding &#8216;ticks&#8217; to mid-sentence links as I personally felt it affected legibility and reading speed, but it works well on things like comments, permalink, trackback links.</p>
<p>I made a version of the mid-sentence version work by using a background image, not specifying block width, and aligning link text to the right. Worked a treat, and fully cross-browser.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be evangelical about using ticks for added usability wherever possible. But, be wary of using background images on links:<br />
<a href="http://www.collylogic.com/index.php/weblog/comments/52/" rel="nofollow">background images security flaw</a>, and <a href="http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk/archives/link_monkey_business.html" rel="nofollow">more here</a></p>
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		By: Mike D.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/06/radical-links#comment-224</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I personally don&#039;t mind the mid-sentence checkmarks as they seem small and light enough to not really affect readability, but of course, that&#039;s just my opinion.  An opinion which could easily change after time and/or any potential complaints...

Simon: Upon looking at your site again, I&#039;m sure you subconsciously planted this checkmark idea in my head because now that I think about it, I clearly remember seeing the image-based implementation in your sidebar.  And so, I do hereby credit thee with a large dose of inspiration!

I am not, however, too worried about the potential security exploit mentioned by others with regards to your site (even though I&#039;m not using background-images anyway). Number one: I&#039;m just not tracking stats like that.  And number two: I&#039;m not too sure the proprietor of a site doesn&#039;t have the right to track stuff like that if they wanted to. I can add javascript to my links to track where you&#039;re clicking anyway, so doing it with a background image doesn&#039;t seem any worse... unless I&#039;m missing something.

Also, I will look into providing the hack that Mike P. suggests for IE 6. Since they get their grey visited link color anyway, I didn&#039;t think it totally necessary to offer them full parity in radicalness as well. There&#039;s just something satisfying about keeping subtleties away from IE people...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally don&#8217;t mind the mid-sentence checkmarks as they seem small and light enough to not really affect readability, but of course, that&#8217;s just my opinion.  An opinion which could easily change after time and/or any potential complaints&#8230;</p>
<p>Simon: Upon looking at your site again, I&#8217;m sure you subconsciously planted this checkmark idea in my head because now that I think about it, I clearly remember seeing the image-based implementation in your sidebar.  And so, I do hereby credit thee with a large dose of inspiration!</p>
<p>I am not, however, too worried about the potential security exploit mentioned by others with regards to your site (even though I&#8217;m not using background-images anyway). Number one: I&#8217;m just not tracking stats like that.  And number two: I&#8217;m not too sure the proprietor of a site doesn&#8217;t have the right to track stuff like that if they wanted to. I can add javascript to my links to track where you&#8217;re clicking anyway, so doing it with a background image doesn&#8217;t seem any worse&#8230; unless I&#8217;m missing something.</p>
<p>Also, I will look into providing the hack that Mike P. suggests for IE 6. Since they get their grey visited link color anyway, I didn&#8217;t think it totally necessary to offer them full parity in radicalness as well. There&#8217;s just something satisfying about keeping subtleties away from IE people&#8230;</p>
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		By: Colly		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/06/radical-links#comment-225</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Colly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike, I think a chap in Germany did the ticks first (very efficient people), though I hadn&#039;t seen it until he posted a comment on my site.

Regarding readability, your ticks are subtle, and I think they work - it&#039;s just takes a bit of getting used to seeing them mid-sentence. I&#039;m not concerned about the background image security either, but Andy Clarke has definitely highlighted it&#039;s potential misuse in his article.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, I think a chap in Germany did the ticks first (very efficient people), though I hadn&#8217;t seen it until he posted a comment on my site.</p>
<p>Regarding readability, your ticks are subtle, and I think they work &#8211; it&#8217;s just takes a bit of getting used to seeing them mid-sentence. I&#8217;m not concerned about the background image security either, but Andy Clarke has definitely highlighted it&#8217;s potential misuse in his article.</p>
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		By: Scott Plumlee		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/06/radical-links#comment-226</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Plumlee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Only issue for me is that I have to go to the end of the link to see the checkmark.  On a long link, it&#039;s not as obvious.  Maybe try the checkmark at the start?  When I check off a list, I normally check to the left.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only issue for me is that I have to go to the end of the link to see the checkmark.  On a long link, it&#8217;s not as obvious.  Maybe try the checkmark at the start?  When I check off a list, I normally check to the left.</p>
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		By: Mike P.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/06/radical-links#comment-227</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike P.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmm, my apologies, seems I missed that you were offering the grey visited color to IE, and that they would only miss out on the ticks. My fault for checking in IE with my eyes closed, apparently.

Doug over at Stopdesign uses genereated content (I believe) on his home page quite nicely. The &#187; that follow his &#039;more&#039; links gets that treatment, and IE loses out there too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, my apologies, seems I missed that you were offering the grey visited color to IE, and that they would only miss out on the ticks. My fault for checking in IE with my eyes closed, apparently.</p>
<p>Doug over at Stopdesign uses genereated content (I believe) on his home page quite nicely. The &raquo; that follow his &#8216;more&#8217; links gets that treatment, and IE loses out there too.</p>
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		By: Rob Cameron		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/06/radical-links#comment-228</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Cameron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I borrowed the checkmarks from Colly for my own site. I like them in a list of links but not as much inline with other text ...

For me my eyes kept getting drawn to them as I&#039;m reading through a sentance, but the brain is good at filtering out what it doesn&#039;t need so after a while I can just skip right past them.  

How many simultaneous ways do you need to show that the link has been visited?  You could always add the strike-though method as well. ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I borrowed the checkmarks from Colly for my own site. I like them in a list of links but not as much inline with other text &#8230;</p>
<p>For me my eyes kept getting drawn to them as I&#8217;m reading through a sentance, but the brain is good at filtering out what it doesn&#8217;t need so after a while I can just skip right past them.  </p>
<p>How many simultaneous ways do you need to show that the link has been visited?  You could always add the strike-though method as well. ;)</p>
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		By: yafujifide		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/06/radical-links#comment-229</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yafujifide]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s wrong with the disappear method? I don&#039;t need to be distracted by links I&#039;ve already clicked.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s wrong with the disappear method? I don&#8217;t need to be distracted by links I&#8217;ve already clicked.</p>
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		By: Matt Burris		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/06/radical-links#comment-230</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt Burris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Definitely a neat trick.  I&#039;ve seen it done with the pseudo-element :after before (heh) but never seen that radical character.  A little suggestion though?  Since your visited color is so close to the regular text, why not make the radical character a different color?  Such as bright orange or red, so that when scanning, people will know it&#039;s a visited link, and not miss the radical character.  My eyesight isn&#039;t terribly great, and when I tried this on my page, I&#039;ve found having the radical a different color than the link text was easier to spot and recognize.

Loving the site and the subjects you post about.  Keep up the good work!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely a neat trick.  I&#8217;ve seen it done with the pseudo-element :after before (heh) but never seen that radical character.  A little suggestion though?  Since your visited color is so close to the regular text, why not make the radical character a different color?  Such as bright orange or red, so that when scanning, people will know it&#8217;s a visited link, and not miss the radical character.  My eyesight isn&#8217;t terribly great, and when I tried this on my page, I&#8217;ve found having the radical a different color than the link text was easier to spot and recognize.</p>
<p>Loving the site and the subjects you post about.  Keep up the good work!</p>
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		By: Frank Hambach		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/06/radical-links#comment-231</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Hambach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why not use Unicode characters 2713 CHECK MARK or 2714 HEAVY CHECK MARK? They just seem to be more appropriate than the radical sign.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not use Unicode characters 2713 CHECK MARK or 2714 HEAVY CHECK MARK? They just seem to be more appropriate than the radical sign.</p>
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		By: Mike D.		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/06/radical-links#comment-232</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frank:

I&#039;d like to use the checkmark or heavy check unicode characters, but browser/OS support doesn&#039;t seem very good so far.  While Safari/Mozilla/Firefox can all render the radical character correctly, only Safari seems to render the checkmark or heavy check.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank:</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to use the checkmark or heavy check unicode characters, but browser/OS support doesn&#8217;t seem very good so far.  While Safari/Mozilla/Firefox can all render the radical character correctly, only Safari seems to render the checkmark or heavy check.</p>
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		By: Chris Rollins		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/06/radical-links#comment-233</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Rollins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The problem with different styled visited links from those with &quot;more design taste&quot; is that how the hell are visitors supposed to know what that style signifies?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with different styled visited links from those with &#8220;more design taste&#8221; is that how the hell are visitors supposed to know what that style signifies?</p>
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		By: Jens Meiert		</title>
		<link>https://mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/06/radical-links#comment-234</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jens Meiert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;By the way, you can easily improve this approach by preventing the radical (or whatever) symbol to break after the corresponding link by using e.g. &quot;\00A0&quot; (no-break space) instead of a space:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;pre&gt;a:visited:after {
    content: &quot;\00A0\221A&quot;;
}&lt;/pre&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Will work just fine.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&#160;&lt;a href=&quot;http://meiert.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jens&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, you can easily improve this approach by preventing the radical (or whatever) symbol to break after the corresponding link by using e.g. &#8220;\00A0&#8221; (no-break space) instead of a space:</p>
<pre>a:visited:after {
    content: "\00A0\221A";
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<p>Will work just fine.</p>
<p>&nbsp;<a href="http://meiert.com/" rel="nofollow">Jens</a></p>
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